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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:25 pm 
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I am not sure any pro sports man would go on to the field of play with the attitude of “cant be bothered”. To me there are two possible factors. Either the players are running on empty and are simply shot before the game has kicked off, or the players are simply not good enough.

Our halves last night were poor from a creative point of view. Sneyd was limping from 20 mins in . Abdul is not showing anything to suggest he can open up a defence. We had 5 sets last night which started on their 20 and we never looked like scoring.

Radford said on Humberside before the game that the fans could expect to see different structures. Well, that never happened and it was same predictable stuff. What make us win games over the last few years wAs to have the size and power to bully teams. We simply do not have the personnel for that now.

Sneyd is clearly not right yet after his injury. I’d play Harris and Miludi in these 6 post season dead end games we now have.

We give Bienek a debut but never once gave him a run at their smaller players.

For all Houghton is a tackling machine, his opposite number showed what an attack minded hooker can bring to a team.

As has been mentioned, a real worry is the resigning of Mini and Washbrook at the expense of a new signing. Both have served the club well, but both will end up being remembered as a knock on merchant and the other a penalty machine with little offered with ball in hand. We need a monster like Wakey have in Pauli Pauli.

I agree with Radford on one thing in his post match comments. The players will have to take some responsibility for this one. The on field decisions making in the second half defies understanding. When Wakey went down to 12 when the game was level, we run the ball from an easily kickable position. That would have pushed us in front with another 8.5 mins to press home the numerical advantage. We run it and (yet again) do not get over the line. 3 minuets later, we get a penalty in a much more difficult position, choose to go for goal (therefore wingding the clock down whilst Wakey 12men get a breather) and miss the kick! Clueless!

There needs to be some changes if we aren serious about a title challenge for next season. Otherwise the fans will simply not up passes to watch what is being served up.

Injuries have been a big factor of our season. It right now there is not much to suggest there I see anything to look forward to.






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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:I am not sure any pro sports man would go on to the field of play with the attitude of “cant be bothered”. To me there are two possible factors. Either the players are running on empty and are simply shot before the game has kicked off, or the players are simply not good enough.

Our halves last night were poor from a creative point of view. Sneyd was limping from 20 mins in . Abdul is not showing anything to suggest he can open up a defence. We had 5 sets last night which started on their 20 and we never looked like scoring.

Radford said on Humberside before the game that the fans could expect to see different structures. Well, that never happened and it was same predictable stuff. What make us win games over the last few years wAs to have the size and power to bully teams. We simply do not have the personnel for that now.

Sneyd is clearly not right yet after his injury. I’d play Harris and Miludi in these 6 post season dead end games we now have.

We give Bienek a debut but never once gave him a run at their smaller players.

For all Houghton is a tackling machine, his opposite number showed what an attack minded hooker can bring to a team.

As has been mentioned, a real worry is the resigning of Mini and Washbrook at the expense of a new signing. Both have served the club well, but both will end up being remembered as a knock on merchant and the other a penalty machine with little offered with ball in hand. We need a monster like Wakey have in Pauli Pauli.

I agree with Radford on one thing in his post match comments. The players will have to take some responsibility for this one. The on field decisions making in the second half defies understanding. When Wakey went down to 12 when the game was level, we run the ball from an easily kickable position. That would have pushed us in front with another 8.5 mins to press home the numerical advantage. We run it and (yet again) do not get over the line. 3 minuets later, we get a penalty in a much more difficult position, choose to go for goal (therefore wingding the clock down whilst Wakey 12men get a breather) and miss the kick! Clueless!

There needs to be some changes if we aren serious about a title challenge for next season. Otherwise the fans will simply not up passes to watch what is being served up.

Injuries have been a big factor of our season. It right now there is not much to suggest there I see anything to look forward to.


A good post, but you have got the penalty scenario completely wrong. We attempted a difficult kick and missed, but then on the following set we got a more kickable one and chose to run it. Then Shaul scored.

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 Post subject: Re: Attitude, Commitment, Desire ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:15 pm 
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I'm all for giving kids a chance in nothing games but will it do any good for their development getting shat on for 6 games?






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 Post subject: Re: Attitude, Commitment, Desire ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:47 pm 
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like harris and miloudi to be given a run out, move Abdul to 13, if we are thinking of moving griffin to 2nd row now might be a chance to see how he goes, give scott a few games at centre, also litten to be given game time, nowt to lose






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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:17 pm 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:A good post, but you have got the penalty scenario completely wrong. We attempted a difficult kick and missed, but then on the following set we got a more kickable one and chose to run it. Then Shaul scored.



It was the penalty we were given for the incident which also included the yellow card. We ran that when two simply points were on offer.






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 Post subject: Re: Attitude, Commitment, Desire ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:19 pm 
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hull2524 wrote:like harris and miloudi to be given a run out, move Abdul to 13, if we are thinking of moving griffin to 2nd row now might be a chance to see how he goes, give scott a few games at centre, also litten to be given game time, nowt to lose


I really think we should move Abdull on,get a small fee and let another coach see what they can get out of him because he will never progress at this club.
Harris although lightweight has a bit of pace and i agree we have nothing to lose now playing him with Sneyd.
Danny Houghton is playing on past performance only and is way off the pace.Jamie Shaul does more running from acting half and we need more than a tackling machine at 9.Yes give Litten a chance now at 9 and let Houghton know he has some competition as he has become complacent.
Miloudi i am not sure of.He is a disaster at full back under a high ball and cant tackle but when on the wing played quite well so maybe a wing replacement is where he will end up unless he signs up at Doncaster which is a possibility,
I still maintain Griffin is a very average centre.International class nowhere near.Put him up against anyone decent like last night and you see his limitations.
i was one of the first to say play him in the second row and i agree now should be the time to give him a run whilst Minichello is out.
We need some power and pace into this squad to even compete for top 8 next season and as i said its possible we will finish this season with 11 consecutive losses,a large downturn in fan interest for 2019 and a major fall in pass sales.
If we do go 0-11 wouldnt surprise me to see some players moved out whilst under contract and one or two surprise signings coming in.
Alternatively Pearson goes out to Australia and brings an Australian coach in.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:28 pm 
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bonaire wrote:I really think we should move Abdull on,get a small fee and let another coach see what they can get out of him because he will never progress at this club.
Harris although lightweight has a bit of pace and i agree we have nothing to lose now playing him with Sneyd.
Danny Houghton is playing on past performance only and is way off the pace.Jamie Shaul does more running from acting half and we need more than a tackling machine at 9.Yes give Litten a chance now at 9 and let Houghton know he has some competition as he has become complacent.
Miloudi i am not sure of.He is a disaster at full back under a high ball and cant tackle but when on the wing played quite well so maybe a wing replacement is where he will end up unless he signs up at Doncaster which is a possibility,
I still maintain Griffin is a very average centre.International class nowhere near.Put him up against anyone decent like last night and you see his limitations.
i was one of the first to say play him in the second row and i agree now should be the time to give him a run whilst Minichello is out.
We need some power and pace into this squad to even compete for top 8 next season and as i said its possible we will finish this season with 11 consecutive losses,a large downturn in fan interest for 2019 and a major fall in pass sales.
If we do go 0-11 wouldnt surprise me to see some players moved out whilst under contract and one or two surprise signings coming in.
Alternatively Pearson goes out to Australia and brings an Australian coach in.

But have we got the wherewithal and the cash to do it. I understand the thinking but not the substance.

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 Post subject: Re: Attitude, Commitment, Desire ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:29 pm 
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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:Can tell you was there tonight no 6, we must go through the motions now, Lane was outstanding, were in the ugly part of the system now, were nothing really matters, a difficult part of the season, good on Scott Taylor giving it to Fafita when the game was done, desire shown in the depths of despair, don’t judge our team on these next few results, keep going Hull f@@k Bonaire and the rest of the rover gang, we will return strong,


Dont get too excited i hit the like button on your post by mistake
By the way whats the Rover gang? is it competitive group to the happy clappers?
As a Riderofthepalehorse take your blinkers off.The team is not good enough and the coach should take responsibility for not refreshing the squad for 2019 like other leading teams and that may ultimately cost him his job.

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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:It was the penalty we were given for the incident which also included the yellow card. We ran that when two simply points were on offer.


I dont think there was a penalty for the yellow card incident. Play was dead because of the 40/20 and they tried to stop us tapping it. So it was a yellow for the professional foul but not a penalty. So the tap was just the tap from the 40/20.

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Armavinit wrote:But have we got the wherewithal and the cash to do it. I understand the thinking but not the substance.


Pearson will not stand still.
As i said in my post it may take releasing some overseas players from their final year contracts by agreement to allow us to strengthen from overseas but if we do go 0-11 a new Australian coach may be Pearsons first act as that would allow him some imput on new players.

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