Riderofthepalehorse wrote:Firstly bonaire, your posts rarely find any positive outcome for us, you must have missed the last two grand final semi finals, OK we came up just short but we were a game away on each year of turning out at Old Trafford.
So we will stick a couple of Challenge cup victories in the last two years instead Wire then the pies, victories at Wembley.
There are only two f######g trophies of any note to win, we’ve won one each in the last two years, how much consistency do you want?
As for your forecast of not making the four “again” baloney I say.
I am just realistic The club and the coach cant just sit back because we won 2 challenge cups. If you think the squad is good enough for a top 4 position next season then thats your opinion. I dont and regretfully think with this squad we are in decline and should have strengthened the squad particularly in the second row and front row by not renewing contracts for Minichello,Washbrook and several of the younger reserve players. I realise its difficult finding suitable replacements players but its the same for all clubs. Consistency is not just winning 2 C/C its going through the league season without losing so many games to what we consider to be inferior clubs which is what we have done.
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[quote="bonaire"]I am just realistic The club and the coach cant just sit back because we won 2 challenge cups. If you think the squad is good enough for a top 4 position next season then thats your opinion. I dont and regretfully think with this squad we are in decline and should have strengthened the squad particularly in the second row and front row by not renewing contracts for Minichello,Washbrook and several of the younger reserve players. I realise its difficult finding suitable replacements players but its the same for all clubs. Consistency is not just winning 2 C/C its going through the league season without losing so many games to what we consider to be inferior clubs which is what we have done.[/quo
We will then agree to disagree , and I suppose time will tell. Your in decline comment seems to overlook our shocking injuries this season to top line players, a full side for once all fully fit, as we have proved is a match for all. We’ve never had that luxury.
Regarding Mini, as I posted earlier the time to release players is an art form in itself, and Radders feels he can go again one more year, after yesterday, get him and Sika back sharpish, we hit the wall in the last quarter against Saints last week, Massi Logan Downs etc have played till they are spent, this is understandable, probably the time to use these remaining games to prepare for next season, I’m just glad we are not at tother end of the table, as the way we are decimated, we would also be in danger.
Dave K. wrote:I still think full strength we have easily a top 4 side, add in Watts and i think we could win the GF.
Think we need another forward, backs are good enough if we play the right style like we did against St George
Yep.
Don't get the negative posts to be honest. We've seen some great games in the last two or three years. We were unbeaten at KCOM until the Wigan game. We have a great squad of players, and a coach whom is widely respected.
We've had a nightmare in the last few months with injuries. We've quite simply run out of bodies and energy. I don't know if you can analyse it much more than that to be honest.
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This season seems similar to Wigan’s last year . Loads of injuries but still pushing for top 4 . Until Wigan got hammered last game at wakey . Even Leeds got at least one hammering at cas and look what they ended up doing . Ok Sunday wasn’t ideal but it happens . Maybe we were due a bad / rubbish season . There’s only 2 trophy’s to play for ,and been realistic there’s 6 teams looking to win them . Looking forward to next season ,I always say it’s nice to add at least 1maybe 2 good additions . Not sure about the lad from London but losing Bowden all season and watts hasn’t helped us this season , but would still like another prop . Ok masi and the rest will improve with a fitter squad but pea is another year older . But if the players aren’t out there , and we’re better with injuries I don’t see why we won’t be challenging next year .
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I have to agree with Vastman. Ellis, Watts and in my opinion mainly Fonua were pretty much irreplaceable in the current market. Ellis was like some kind of magic medallion that made every player play a little better. Mahe was a genuine matchwinner and Watts was when we lost him, our form forward. Mini, Manu and Fetuli are only getting slower and the kids haven't kicked on quite as much as I'd have liked. I still think we have a very good team, and I don't demand silverware as a fan, I'm happy with a good team that can compete. However I do think it's misguided to see us as GF potential currently. Still...I'm more than happy with what Pearson and Radford are trying to achieve and if it takes another few seasons it won't daunt me. We don't have any right to success after all!
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Seriously you're not. Top 8 yes but this season not top four even with a full squad imho.
