Not sure that's fair. I do feel he is a bit limited and I have doubts about whether we can take the next step (contesting and winning grand finals) with him in charge. But he has had one hand tied behind his back all year.

Have to disagree. Back to back seasons at Wembley and 80 minutes from a grand final prove otherwise.

He hasn't handled the adversity this season I agree but its being problem after problem from the word go. I dont think they is a coach in the world who could have got alot more out of this squad this season. With whats gone on silverware was very unlikely.

If I tell you how the refs doing will you tell me what it's like playing in the qualifiers?

Lack of effort and enthusiasm as to be questioned , we honestly look like no one gives a fooook , won't be attending any of the pointless super 8 games

Our pack is weak this season.
We haven’t replaced Watts . What worries me is the talk of lack of recruitment for 2019 . We need to bring in a quality backrower and centre to mount a challenge.

I'm still happy with Radders as the coach, he just needs somebody else around him who can teach us some proper attacking structure and fluency.
God knows what's up with the team today because even against much better opposition they've never defended this bad. Rushing players back too early perhaps. That doesn't make you concede 38 points, but it certainly doesn't help.

Agree I am concerned that we think the core side of 2016 (which of course didn't make Old Trafford from a very good position at the split) with everyone 2 years older is suddenly going to step up and turn it on next year.

We've lost Ellis, Pritchard, Watts and Fonua from that side and while we've added Faraimo, Connor and Kelly and some of the younger players have gained experience, i'm still not sure it'll be enough and that we needed a big new signing or two to add something different.

Would also still like to see an Attacking coach added to the setup, all the coaches were defensively minded players and we still don't seem to have as much backroom staff as other clubs.

Same here.

Come on Tiger!

We've got quality centres. I can't imagine there is much better out there thag is available than Connor, Griffin and Carlos. We just don't see to get them the ball early enough and give a bit of space in front of them to work with.

I don't want to derail the thread but it's so good to see him back in contention! And all 3 who started on -9 are currently over for the day so Tiger is now only 1 back!
I have money on Speith, Kuchar and Molinari (all each way) but i wouldn't mind losing if it means Tiger wins.