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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:06 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:Radfords alreadys said he wont play this season dopey.Littens shown nothing. Washy is a miles better stand in hooker the Litten so that tells you a lot
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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:09 pm 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Radical - ship out the whole coaching set up and bring in someone of highest caliber at the end of the season
Name a stand after Lee but time to move on
Freshen the whole thing up
We’ve seen the same style of Bulls based rugby for the last 4.5 years


I dont think Adam Pearson will go that far but i am reliably informed he is far from happy after tonight.
Expect some player movement in and out irrespective of what Radford has said.
Wouldnt it be great watching a Hull team play like St Helens.
It didnt happen under Cunningham and it wouldnt happen under Radford as i dont think either has the ability to change and adopt that style of play

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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:10 pm 
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bonaire wrote:I think we are putting too much faith in Litten.I hope he makes it but there are better young hookers out there.
Danny Walker at Widnes is only 18 and miles ahead of Litten.
We do need however some competition for Houghton.


Was he carrying a knock tonight? scored a try but seemed very quiet compared to his usual high standards.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:55 pm 
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Too late to change for next season, the squad is already picked.

Development of the academy to 1st XVII standard isn't good enough, not even close, mental strength/fortitude varies too frequently, basic skills vary too frequently, discipline varies too frequently, attacking and defending ability differs too frequently - well, except in attack in the 20 zone because mostly we're not very good/clueless.

Basically, the coach isn't good enough, the team/club won't move forward with Radford in charge as things stand.
IMHO we have a very good 1st XVII BUT it's not coached as well as it could be.

I'd say be prepared for a few seasons of 'nearly' or transition whichever you prefer before we can move forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:16 am 
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hull are 3 behind us with 10 games to go and you play us in that time. 4th is still alive. You've had an abundance of injuries this year and done well. However, with having a young squad out there will bring inconsistencies.






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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:33 am 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Too late to change for next season, the squad is already picked.

Development of the academy to 1st XVII standard isn't good enough, not even close, mental strength/fortitude varies too frequently, basic skills vary too frequently, discipline varies too frequently, attacking and defending ability differs too frequently - well, except in attack in the 20 zone because mostly we're not very good/clueless.

Basically, the coach isn't good enough, the team/club won't move forward with Radford in charge as things stand.
IMHO we have a very good 1st XVII BUT it's not coached as well as it could be.

I'd say be prepared for a few seasons of 'nearly' or transition whichever you prefer before we can move forward.

you don't like Lee, we get it, change the blumin record, why don:t you coach the team?

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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:53 am 
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If Bumpy doesn’t like Lee why should he have to change the record ??
That’s communism mate
If we were all the same we’d be robots

In the last 4.5 years we’ve been truly awful at times and beautifully won 2 x CCs

Moving Forward as per the Thread :

In the next 5 years what is enough success ?

2 GF wins
2 CC wins

That’s success to me

Is Lee Radford and Andy Last the coaching set up to deliver this ? A 60% chance ?

I propose a clean sweep and a higher caliber coach and asst to meet the above goals

Name a Stand after Lee for the Cup wins and give him until the end of the Season to change my mind on this topic






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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:12 am 
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Getting rid of Lee and the staff wouldn't solve anything. I'm amazed at the amount of people not pointing the finger at an under performing pack or Danny Houghton. There lack of go forward and defence cant be coached into them, they have to want to do it. I dont buy its a coaches job to motivate either, these guys are full time professionals.

Not replacing Watts was a mistake but in the long run Masi will benefit from it. Fash on the other hand doesnt cut it for me.






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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:34 am 
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Amazing thread. My favourite suggestions are that you don’t worry about results and focus on next year and that you have a clear out of the coaching staff.
Both excellent ideas, as there’s no danger that further loss of momentum could damage your long-term prospects, and what top calibre coach wouldn’t choose a club where the first slight wobble after two trophies in two years, leads to your firing?

Tarquin Fuego wrote:If Bumpy doesn’t like Lee why should he have to change the record ??
That’s communism mate
If we were all the same we’d be robots


I know you value precise use of language, amenable to simple, literal interpretation, so just to note - no it isn’t and no we wouldn’t.






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 Post subject: Re: Moving forward
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:39 am 
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HFC Boy wrote:The title of this thread “Moving Forward”.
That seems to be the problem. Attack and ball movement is our problem. Slow and laboured passing. Is it time for an attack Coach to help out ?
Our “biff and bash” style is not working like previous seasons .


We have the third best attack in the league.

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