I say let them worry about us 1 inch of a gap and we'll be away with the pace we have and let our forwards soften them up down the middle especially running at Roby after is trip to denver and like someone as said kick into touch every time make them play from the scrum.







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This fatigue thing may be a bit of a red herring. Don't athletes go to train at altitude to improve endurance. When they return the England squad's lung capacity should be improved so hopefully they have managed to fill them with the airline's recycled "air".

You need a minimum of 10 days training at altitude to get a physical benefit, so no, none of the players are coming back fitter.

Would have thought with jet lag etc they would be coming back fatigued.

Not always the case. They will have flown Business Class where they would have a full length seat/bed which is more conducive to sleep than your average peasant class seat down the back of the aircraft, plus they would have had advice/info from sports scientists etc about how to combat jet-lag, eg. when to eat, sleep drink etc.
So it may not be a major factor.

You can get over jet lag from the US in 2 days or less. I don't think it will be a factor.

Finn in the squad for Kirmond.

I'd go with same team without Kirmond.
I'd play Annakin on the bench and Finn and MCB to mods out.

These are young men and Rugby players, you're assuming a fair bit there - that said I can't see it being a huge issue we are talking four players?

I can't see Finn getting in for Kirmond unless CC has some novel strategy in mind.

Well, expect a novel strategy. Finn is in the 19 and Kirmo is out.