FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 299 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ... 30  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:59 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Jan 08 2006
Posts: 12099
AS108 wrote:You’ve got to be joking? Hulls injuries count for everything, reality is you’ve got key players in Sneyd, Talanoa and Griffin missing and you’re bringing two back early in Tuimavave and Kelly and as a result they won’t be anywhere near match fit. Even with a full team you’re fairly average but with the team that’ll likely be playing on Sunday only Connor and Taylor class as quality (Kelly and Tuimavave would if they were fit). Last time we played it was easy and this time we’ll be even better. We had this debate last time and I said we’ll win comfortably and we did. Similar will likely happen this time as well.


I mean the last time we played counts for nothing. Yes you beat us, and yes we were stronger on paper that day, but it might surprise you to know that not every game is the same. We were really flat that night. I guarantee we won't be this time, even if the quality of player is lower.

You are favourites, but we don't have anything to fear. Last year the Cas fans all took great joy in telling us what they were going to do to us and they couldn't lay a glove on us when it came down to it.

However well you are playing the same rules apply as any other game. Control the ptb, complete high and take your chances and you will probably win. I aren't really bothered about Barba, Lomax or any of the others. We won't show them the respect that Cas have shown the last few weeks I am sure of that.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:07 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8166
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
AS108 wrote:
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:It counts for nothing. It's all on the day.


You’ve got to be joking? Hulls injuries count for everything, reality is you’ve got key players in Sneyd, Talanoa and Griffin missing and you’re bringing two back early in Tuimavave and Kelly and as a result they won’t be anywhere near match fit. Even with a full team you’re fairly average but with the team that’ll likely be playing on Sunday only Connor and Taylor class as quality (Kelly and Tuimavave would if they were fit). Last time we played it was easy and this time we’ll be even better. We had this debate last time and I said we’ll win comfortably and we did. Similar will likely happen this time as well.


That's what everyone said back in 2005 Semi Final hull had no chance against the all conquering St's team (which was a far better than today's side).

Whilst it will be a very difficult task its not an impossible one and as Hull FC have shown in the past couple of years we can seem to raise our game for the cup. Whether that will be possible with the injuries to key personnel who knows but all the pressure is on St's as Hull have nothing to lose as written off before the games even started.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!


Last edited by Chris71 on Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:36 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Aug 01 2005
Posts: 11612
AS108 wrote:Seeing as we beat you with no Barba and Roby for the last 30 and you had pretty much a full team out, strangely enough, no.




Sarcasm not your strong point is it?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:07 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Apr 04 2014
Posts: 7784
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:That would be my team aswell. Carlos would usually play left centre but I guess they will switch him to the right to snuff out Percival. It's also sensible to split up Faraimo and Carlos to have one experienced guy on each side of the field. The only real question for me is do you go with Scott or Logan at centre. Logan is obviously the more experienced, but Scott looks the bigger talent to me and provides a bit more size. Picking Miloudi is a no brainer, so it has to be between the other two imo.



If Tuimavave plays i dont think Radford will move him to right centre.I like Cam Scott but lacks a bit of pace so Logan for me at right centre.
My worry is we seem to to be looking to play Kelly and Carlos before they are fully fit.
I understand the problem we have and its disappointing, but in reality we wont beat St Helens and as usual as soon as we switch off Barba will run riot.
If they do play and break down again and thats a real possibility especially with Kelly, then that blows away any chance of a top four finish.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:17 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Oct 07 2006
Posts: 4919
Location: Drypool Bridge - watching out for invaders from the East.
bonaire wrote:If Tuimavave plays i dont think Radford will move him to right centre.I like Cam Scott but lacks a bit of pace so Logan for me at right centre.
My worry is we seem to to be looking to play Kelly and Carlos before they are fully fit.
I understand the problem we have and its disappointing, but in reality we wont beat St Helens and as usual as soon as we switch off Barba will run riot.
If they do play and break down again and thats a real possibility especially with Kelly, then that blows away any chance of a top four finish.



Such faith in our team!!






JOHNNY WHITELEY - A TRUE RUGBY LEAGUE LEGEND

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:18 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Jan 08 2006
Posts: 12099
bonaire wrote:If Tuimavave plays i dont think Radford will move him to right centre.I like Cam Scott but lacks a bit of pace so Logan for me at right centre.
My worry is we seem to to be looking to play Kelly and Carlos before they are fully fit.
I understand the problem we have and its disappointing, but in reality we wont beat St Helens and as usual as soon as we switch off Barba will run riot.
If they do play and break down again and thats a real possibility especially with Kelly, then that blows away any chance of a top four finish.


You don't know how fit either of them are though. They might be ahead of schedule, but if they pass whatever tests are required then they are good to go. Beating the initial prognosis by a couple weeks isn't necessarily rushing them back. If they are ready they are ready.

I disagree that in reality we won't beat Saints. We are outsiders for the game, but we absolutely can beat them. It would hardly be the upset of the year. There are only 3 trophies to play for, and one is as good as gone already. So even if we only have a slim chance we have to do whatever we can to take it.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:19 pm 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29797
Location: West Yorkshire
AS108 wrote:You’ve got to be joking? Hulls injuries count for everything, reality is you’ve got key players in Sneyd, Talanoa and Griffin missing and you’re bringing two back early in Tuimavave and Kelly and as a result they won’t be anywhere near match fit. Even with a full team you’re fairly average but with the team that’ll likely be playing on Sunday only Connor and Taylor class as quality (Kelly and Tuimavave would if they were fit). Last time we played it was easy and this time we’ll be even better. We had this debate last time and I said we’ll win comfortably and we did. Similar will likely happen this time as well.

Good that you're acknowledging the magnitude of our key man injury crisis. FWIW I hope you go on and win it. I do like Jon Wilkin.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:45 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Sep 23 2008
Posts: 1874
Location: Top of the East Stand
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:You don't know how fit either of them are though. They might be ahead of schedule, but if they pass whatever tests are required then they are good to go. Beating the initial prognosis by a couple weeks isn't necessarily rushing them back. If they are ready they are ready.

I disagree that in reality we won't beat Saints. We are outsiders for the game, but we absolutely can beat them. It would hardly be the upset of the year. There are only 3 trophies to play for, and one is as good as gone already. So even if we only have a slim chance we have to do whatever we can to take it.


Ahead of schedule? Carlos was out for 12 weeks a fortnight ago. We must have been in touch with McGuire's fitness team.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:59 pm 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Sep 25 2003
Posts: 22183
Faithful One wrote:Ahead of schedule? Carlos was out for 12 weeks a fortnight ago. We must have been in touch with McGuire's fitness team.


Well it was ten weeks, three weeks ago but I take your point.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:06 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Aug 15 2011
Posts: 5318
Sneyd was out for "a big chunk of the season" last year, but a magic boot got him back playing a lot sooner than expected (for the rest of the season).

Now it's Talanoa's turn to wear it. :)






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?


Last edited by ccs on Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 299 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 ... 30  Next





It is currently Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:33 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 39 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:33 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Hybrid rugby
moto748
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2571
1m
2025 Season tickets
Dannyboywt1
214
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
3550
3m
New Players
BigTime
135
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5543
3m
Film game
karetaker
5415
4m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
9
4m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Vancouver Le
10
4m
Magic weekend fixtures confirmed
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
745 Game
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Are we nearly there yet
Returnwr to
1
TODAY
Magic weekend fixtures confirmed
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
9
TODAY
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Neruda
6
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Armavinit
13
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Vancouver Le
10
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1064
England's Women Demolish The W..
915
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1151
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
943
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1203
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1736
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1983
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2232
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1800
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2043
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2507
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1946
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2031
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2226
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2341
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Hybrid rugby
moto748
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
55s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2571
1m
2025 Season tickets
Dannyboywt1
214
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NSW
28881
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
rubber ducki
3550
3m
New Players
BigTime
135
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5543
3m
Film game
karetaker
5415
4m
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
9
4m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Vancouver Le
10
4m
Magic weekend fixtures confirmed
Huddersfield
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
745 Game
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Are we nearly there yet
Returnwr to
1
TODAY
Magic weekend fixtures confirmed
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
9
TODAY
Keith Hepworth passes away
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Misi Taulapapa
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Season tickets
Neruda
6
TODAY
RIP Keith Hepworth 1942-2024
Armavinit
13
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
orangeman
7
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Vancouver Le
10
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
10
TODAY
Season pass roll call
The Dentist
34
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
4
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Jimmythecuck
2
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
34
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1064
England's Women Demolish The W..
915
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1151
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
943
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1203
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1736
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1983
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2232
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1800
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2043
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2507
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1946
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2031
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2226
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2341


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.