Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 6:29 pm
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Leigh_Manning wrote:judging by others comments, Facebook...
The same FB page that reliably gave us the Sam Burgess is signing exclusive and the Kelly is departing scoop.
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Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 7:05 pm
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Mrs Barista wrote:Which page is it?
Rugby League Rumour Mill - name says it all
A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself.
When you rescue a dog, you gain a heart for life.
Handle every situation like a dog. If you can't Eat it or Chew it. Pee on it and Walk Away.
"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin. " Anuerin Bevan
Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:35 pm
Erik the not red
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Why should it? It doesn't give them any advantage in the slightest, it's not as if they would get more than 5/6k of their own fans, IF Hull did get through they'd take more fans to a semi at Hudds. In some scenarios noted in indoor sports it's said crowd density has an influence on the home team, correlation but not necessarily proving causality. The reality is and as I've said a couple of years ago the outcome is not influenced by a vociferous home support. Sports professionals are pretty much outside of the influence by fans, they can say before or after that the home support is great/what led them on to victory but when you are on that field of play it isn't the cheering/noise/wanting to let the fans down that influences what you do. You could say then on that basis that actually home pressure overcomes any advantage at home, real or imagined, there's simply too many variables.
You might as others have that we are unbeaten at home but there is simply no causality with respect to home ground advantage or support, this is the same for any sport. We had our best Olympics at Rio, couldn't be much further away from home. A pro athlete, one that is focussed on their job is in the height of battle not influenced by fans/arena. Play the semi finals where it will get the most fans that is easier for all teams to get too even if that means x team are seemingly getting home advantage, except they're not.
You have trotted out the "no home advantage garbage" before and was proved then to be talking out of your rear end. In fact the only "evidence" you came up with showed how the norm is for home teams to win more. Its rather more than just fan noise. For example sports arenas have different dimensions and home players are more familiar with them and the effects of local weather conditions - all these areas of familiarity and difference add up.
You are also so desperate now that you have included the Olympics, even though some sports are notably not influenced much by crowds and stadium factors (shooting, archery, rowing) in the way team ball games are. And in any case Rio wasn't the most successful Olympics for Britain, not even close, that was 1908 which was guess where.
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