Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:09 pm
edinburgh yorkie
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Corals giving 12/1 today for hull fc to win the cup,just put a tenner on em.
born in airlie str,1939.german landmine that fell on boulevard,also blew up half of our house.thats why i dont like germans.not because they blew our house and boulevard up,but because the gerry pillock was aiming for craven park.
Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:57 pm
WIZEB
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Joined: Nov 23 2009 Posts: 12741 Location: The Hamptons of East Yorkshire
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Would expect 3/1 ish for Sunday. 12 or 14 handicap. Depends on squads though. If Kelly plays it might be a fraction shorter.
Could be right but we were a fraction bigger than 4/1 in places to beat Warrington on Friday and Saints are loads better than them. Should be 5's minimum.
Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:11 pm
Mr. Zucchini Head
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WIZEB wrote:Could be right but we were a fraction bigger than 4/1 in places to beat Warrington on Friday and Saints are loads better than them. Should be 5's minimum.
Maybe. But with our recent cup record, Faraimo back and Taylor expected back I would be surprised.
Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:43 pm
knockersbumpMKII
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Wilde 3 wrote:He spoke to my dad at exelby on Friday and said it would be the Wigan game. Wanted him back sooner but he did some running on Friday and he was still in a bit of pain. If he plays versus Saints then it could be risking him further
Which was exactly the point of the question I posed, he could play, but whether it benefits the club or indeed the player individually is another matter altogether. Losing Kelly for the rest of the season over him breaking down mid game and not up to par would be tantamount to tactical naivety. Sure IF and that's a very big if, he plays and we pull off a win people will say it was the right move but in all honesty playing players when it's not just a risk in the sense of how they go but also their individual well being. What if a player gets an injury that puts them out for 3/6/9/12 months or even one that ends a career all on coming back too soon? The risk is simply not worth it IMHO as I've said.
Post subject: Re: V St.Helens CC Risk players or take the loss?
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:58 pm
Mr. Zucchini Head
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Which was exactly the point of the question I posed, he could play, but whether it benefits the club or indeed the player individually is another matter altogether. Losing Kelly for the rest of the season over him breaking down mid game and not up to par would be tantamount to tactical naivety. Sure IF and that's a very big if, he plays and we pull off a win people will say it was the right move but in all honesty playing players when it's not just a risk in the sense of how they go but also their individual well being. What if a player gets an injury that puts them out for 3/6/9/12 months or even one that ends a career all on coming back too soon? The risk is simply not worth it IMHO as I've said.
It depends how much value we are putting on the cup I guess.
I would give him as long as possible, but if they have doubts then don't take the chance.
If he can't play though I have no idea how we will line up with Harris and Sanderson cup tied, and if Miloudi gets a ban (don't think he will, but it's possible) we are really stuck. Litten in the halves maybe?
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