Having watched the replay their first try is absolutely fine. The second one is impossible to tell because the chasers arent in the picture when the kick goes up. Shauls try I have seen get disallowed by VR before, but also seen them given. The tackle was still there to made if the Cas player wasnt more interested in appealing for a penalty.

As great a coach as he no doubt is, Powell has always been one of the biggest whingers in the game.

For me although I agree the Shaul try would more than likely have been ruled out players who are defending are now taking an easy option after making a poor defensive read. If you actually just watch Ellis he actually makes a decision to tackle Mini thinking he would receive the ball stopping Mini from running through the line before the ball is passed by Sneyd. Its now becoming prevalent in the game that defending players are actually deliberating making contact with a runner to gain a penalty. Its back to the problem when players where deliberating throwing the ball at a defending player at the ptb to gain a penalty. Ellis also deliberately ran into a defending player knowing he wouldn't get to the ball first when he put the chip over the top then promptly threw himself on the floor to gain a penalty.

Its a part of the game that really needs looking at and clarifying to stop the gamesmanship.

Was sat directly in line for the their first try and Shenton was about 2ft in front of Ellis when he put the kick up in the air.

Karen you are right, i will ignore.

Been saying about the bad read for ages. Some are clear obstruction but the bad read/throwing your arms up are becoming a problem, that the refereeing needs to address.

Not holding my breath with Ganson in charge

Thank you

Just don't know what you mean

From the disallowed obstructions that I've seen this year I don't think i've seen one where the obstructed player actually locks arms around the runner. They all tend to push off in an attempt to get to the man with the ball. For mine Ellis just makes a really bad read, he attempts to tackle mini which is why I think the ref let it go.

Why do the Rfl insist on making the obstruction rule so complicated , if the video ref as to look at 10 replays to decide , it's clearly not an obstruction. I think most rugby fans can take 1 look and decide if it's obstruction or not , it's pretty obvious , just got a bunch of numpties complicating it

Don't know its the rule itself that's too complicated. Problem is that all teams run plays that are running very close to the definition of obstruction without being quite there, and to respond defences are blurring the line further by over playing their response to suggest that there indeed was obstruction. All this of course is another example would of what would be easier to deal with if we had 2 refs.

Chris71 wrote:Cripes Powell really is a sore loser and has gone down in my estimations his comments here​ Pity he fails to mention his own players infringements during the game but of course they lost so had to be the ref's fault. "When your not on SKY the games is a shambles" ... I think that's a bit contrary to popular opinion don't you...

Chris71 wrote:Cripes Powell really is a sore loser and has gone down in my estimations his comments here​ Pity he fails to mention his own players infringements during the game but of course they lost so had to be the ref's fault. "When your not on SKY the games is a shambles" ... I think that's a bit contrary to popular opinion don't you...