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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:42 pm 
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Trojan Horse wrote:


Thought you looked a pretty decent outfit in parts. Agree with that end statement though. You need a David Fifita type prop and a prop that like England who will run it in all day and make some good yard gains without the flash. Add a winger like Johnstone or BJB and you wouldn’t be far off (we have MCB who is a quality winger who would be awesome signing for you guys who can’t get a game atm). We’d be mad to let MCB go to a rival league team but you get the idea.

i wouldn’t get too disheartened. You run Leeds close afterall and will pick up some more points down the road. As for gutless I just think they run out of steam and losing the possession battle and the collision in that 40-60 minute spell just took too much out of them.

Best of look for the rest of season.[/quote]



Theres the problem, we can put the effort in to run leeds so close and follow it up with such an abject effortless 2nd half the week after. Until we can become competetive on a weekly basis we'll always be middle 8 material.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:28 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:Back your team


I’ve not watched this one, but the effort has been good most of the season. We’re just short of quality and we lose the collision way too much, despite that effort.

So there’s no anger and not much surprise on my part. The team have my full, if remote, support. But while negativity can be self-fulfilling, baseless optimism is dangerous too. One of the most worrying moments in 2016 was being told we shouldn’t worry. At least this time there’s seemingly no confusion about the scale of the task before them.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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luke ShipleyRed wrote:
Agree that this season was all about staying up anyway we can. Then we can improve the side year on year by getting in better players. Personally would like us to be looking at the championship or fringe players of SL clubs like Caton Brown,Klienhorst Pattern. Young hungry players with something to prove.

Hopefully we won't go down the franchise route again, as I don't think it adds anything to the game or improves the standards. But fear you could be right.


I think we’ve got young and hungry pretty well covered. We need a few more quality players closer to their prime, imo. Long-term plans quickly run out of steam without some initial impetus. I can’t imagine us having a recruitment round like we did more than a decade ago, ahead of 2008, nowadays - the market is way too flat. But that sent out a real signal of intent that we were going to consolidate and become competitive in SL.

I agree about franchising. It’s a fine line between offering security and allowing stagnation. Also would anybody trust the security offered after the debacle last time?

That said, the Championship is not a well balanced competition, and I think there will be changes (again) within a year or two.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:27 pm 
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Mild Rover wrote:I think we’ve got young and hungry pretty well covered. We need a few more quality players closer to their prime, imo. Long-term plans quickly run out of steam without some initial impetus. I can’t imagine us having a recruitment round like we did more than a decade ago, ahead of 2008, nowadays - the market is way too flat. But that sent out a real signal of intent that we were going to consolidate and become competitive in SL.

I agree about franchising. It’s a fine line between offering security and allowing stagnation. Also would anybody trust the security offered after the debacle last time?

That said, the Championship is not a well balanced competition, and I think there will be changes (again) within a year or two.


When i say young i mean early to mid 20's (which is sadly alot younger than me). And You could argue that they have been our better more consistent performers this year. I'm not against some older players with experience, just personally feel we should be looking at younger players not getting game time, who we can then build a team around that could hopefully last.
Though I agree the market the last few years has been flat.

The championship is always going to be an unbalanced division while you got both FT and PT time teams in the same division. Whilst Featherstone have been a great example to PT teams, you're only going to get a few that could match that. So FT teams hold all the aces. Throw in the travel with regards Toulouse and the cap dispensation for Toronto. The £500,000 extra Leigh got. Then your only going to get one outcome.
And to be honest league 1 is far worse with regards being unbalanced.






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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:38 pm 
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luke ShipleyRed wrote:When i say young i mean early to mid 20's (which is sadly alot younger than me). And You could argue that they have been our better more consistent performers this year. I'm not against some older players with experience, just personally feel we should be looking at younger players not getting game time, who we can then build a team around that could hopefully last.
Though I agree the market the last few years has been flat.

The championship is always going to be an unbalanced division while you got both FT and PT time teams in the same division. Whilst Featherstone have been a great example to PT teams, you're only going to get a few that could match that. So FT teams hold all the aces. Throw in the travel with regards Toulouse and the cap dispensation for Toronto. The £500,000 extra Leigh got. Then your only going to get one outcome.
And to be honest league 1 is far worse with regards being unbalanced.


We need 2 competitive leagues of 12 where being relegated isn't the disaster it is now but we don't have the cash or the player pool






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