shauney wrote:Odd how he's overlooked their offsides at the two bombs they put up and scored from. From what i've seen at least one of their players appears offside on both kicks who then takes part in the play.
Having watched the replay their first try is absolutely fine. The second one is impossible to tell because the chasers arent in the picture when the kick goes up. Shauls try I have seen get disallowed by VR before, but also seen them given. The tackle was still there to made if the Cas player wasnt more interested in appealing for a penalty.
As great a coach as he no doubt is, Powell has always been one of the biggest whingers in the game.
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Chris28 wrote:Need to look again at their tries but watched the Shaul try on SL show. One of those tries that the VR would have disallowed I'm afraid.
Still if theirs were offside we would still have won, so I guess DP would have been happy to be nilled if we had one try chalked off by the VR
For me although I agree the Shaul try would more than likely have been ruled out players who are defending are now taking an easy option after making a poor defensive read. If you actually just watch Ellis he actually makes a decision to tackle Mini thinking he would receive the ball stopping Mini from running through the line before the ball is passed by Sneyd. Its now becoming prevalent in the game that defending players are actually deliberating making contact with a runner to gain a penalty. Its back to the problem when players where deliberating throwing the ball at a defending player at the ptb to gain a penalty. Ellis also deliberately ran into a defending player knowing he wouldn't get to the ball first when he put the chip over the top then promptly threw himself on the floor to gain a penalty.
Its a part of the game that really needs looking at and clarifying to stop the gamesmanship.
Was sat directly in line for the their first try and Shenton was about 2ft in front of Ellis when he put the kick up in the air.
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Chris71 wrote:For me although I agree the Shaul try would more than likely have been ruled out players who are defending are now taking an easy option after making a poor defensive read. If you actually just watch Ellis he actually makes a decision to tackle Mini thinking he would receive the ball stopping Mini from running through the line before the ball is passed by Sneyd. Its now becoming prevalent in the game that defending players are actually deliberating making contact with a runner to gain a penalty.
Been saying about the bad read for ages. Some are clear obstruction but the bad read/throwing your arms up are becoming a problem, that the refereeing needs to address.
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Chris28 wrote:
Chris71 wrote:For me although I agree the Shaul try would more than likely have been ruled out players who are defending are now taking an easy option after making a poor defensive read. If you actually just watch Ellis he actually makes a decision to tackle Mini thinking he would receive the ball stopping Mini from running through the line before the ball is passed by Sneyd. Its now becoming prevalent in the game that defending players are actually deliberating making contact with a runner to gain a penalty.
Been saying about the bad read for ages. Some are clear obstruction but the bad read/throwing your arms up are becoming a problem, that the refereeing needs to address.
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From the disallowed obstructions that I've seen this year I don't think i've seen one where the obstructed player actually locks arms around the runner. They all tend to push off in an attempt to get to the man with the ball. For mine Ellis just makes a really bad read, he attempts to tackle mini which is why I think the ref let it go.
Why do the Rfl insist on making the obstruction rule so complicated , if the video ref as to look at 10 replays to decide , it's clearly not an obstruction. I think most rugby fans can take 1 look and decide if it's obstruction or not , it's pretty obvious , just got a bunch of numpties complicating it
Don't know its the rule itself that's too complicated. Problem is that all teams run plays that are running very close to the definition of obstruction without being quite there, and to respond defences are blurring the line further by over playing their response to suggest that there indeed was obstruction. All this of course is another example would of what would be easier to deal with if we had 2 refs.
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