Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25863 Location: Back in Hull.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:You mean that 20/21 year old that was scapegoated along with Crooks for Radford's ineptitude in 2014, who when he played and wasn't dropped we won more games than we lost? That wasn't down to Miller, that was down to the coach not being good enough to exploit and develop a talented half, as seen, even at a side like Wakefield he's done more than fine. Rankin unfortunately more suited to FB and we already had a young talented FB, had a 1 in 2 try scoring rate for us which wasn't too shabby, good enough to play at NRL level and holding his own.
I agree with the thoughts that Kelly could be a big risk and paying top dollar means money diverted away from elsewhere, but if you think that we got lucky to get him at all and very much on a reduced salary the first year then sometimes you just have to go with it, especially if no-one else of similar quality is going to be available. You can't second guess what might/might not happen with respect to injuries and player performances. And looks like as I was typing we've signed him, good, it'll hopefully bring stability in that sense as opposed to not just fans not knowing but also in terms of not having to find a suitable replacement/new player into the club which can take time to bed in. That was something Kelly was superior to most, he was straight out the blocks.
I'd rather he sat out a few games and got right than be dragging his heels possibly getting a worse injury and have him fully fit for the back end when it matters.
I agree, Gentle messed up by signing Miller on a Huge contract and played him in the wrong role, luckily Radford managed to get rid of him and we now have 3 better halfbacks than him.
Rankin was/is average, plays with pain, buts that it, no where near good enough for a challenging team at FB or HB.
Joined: Feb 03 2004 Posts: 3722 Location: United Kingdom
Go Kelly I’m delighted ! Now he’s a player for another 2 years I wish him all the best and hope he goes onto emulate the best 6s we’ve ever had - truly We’re all in and let’s win some more silverware
hull2524 wrote:bombed out or in, told you, my opinion of course
Looks like, might stay, fingers crossed, here's hoping. Yeah real positivity there from you. It was a 50 50 call so well done for guessing right Hull 1234.
Joined: Aug 13 2011 Posts: 7194 Location: east east hull
Tarquin Fuego wrote:Go Kelly I’m delighted ! Now he’s a player for another 2 years I wish him all the best and hope he goes onto emulate the best 6s we’ve ever had - truly We’re all in and let’s win some more silverware
I thought you said you wouldn't resign him
einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result
Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 8221 Location: Never never land away with the fairies
Dave K. wrote:
knockersbumpMKII wrote:You mean that 20/21 year old that was scapegoated along with Crooks for Radford's ineptitude in 2014, who when he played and wasn't dropped we won more games than we lost? That wasn't down to Miller, that was down to the coach not being good enough to exploit and develop a talented half, as seen, even at a side like Wakefield he's done more than fine. Rankin unfortunately more suited to FB and we already had a young talented FB, had a 1 in 2 try scoring rate for us which wasn't too shabby, good enough to play at NRL level and holding his own.
I agree with the thoughts that Kelly could be a big risk and paying top dollar means money diverted away from elsewhere, but if you think that we got lucky to get him at all and very much on a reduced salary the first year then sometimes you just have to go with it, especially if no-one else of similar quality is going to be available. You can't second guess what might/might not happen with respect to injuries and player performances. And looks like as I was typing we've signed him, good, it'll hopefully bring stability in that sense as opposed to not just fans not knowing but also in terms of not having to find a suitable replacement/new player into the club which can take time to bed in. That was something Kelly was superior to most, he was straight out the blocks.
I'd rather he sat out a few games and got right than be dragging his heels possibly getting a worse injury and have him fully fit for the back end when it matters.
I agree, Gentle messed up by signing Miller on a Huge contract and played him in the wrong role, luckily Radford managed to get rid of him and we now have 3 better halfbacks than him.
Rankin was/is average, plays with pain, buts that it, no where near good enough for a challenging team at FB or HB.
It's pure fantasy that Crooks or Miller were scapegoated by Radford!! Crooks after one good season (along with lineman) got the idea he was a world class player and wanted far more than his worth. Miller on the other hand was a young kid with a lot of potential but due to McRaes appalling deal was being paid way too much. Radford due the mess left by poor recruitment under McRae/Gentle meant hard tough decisions had to be made. We needed an experienced halfback so Miller had to go due to his over the top contract & taking an overseas spot, likewise Crooks chose to leave rather than sign a contract the club deemed he was worth.
Think Radford has been proved correct when releasing players as Crooks has really set the world alight since leaving. Miller whilst being decent is still not as good as Sneyd or Kelly so again correct decision when the squad needed changing and the use of the salary needed to maximised. Both Radford and Motu have done a great job in addressing and resolving the issues left when they took on their roles.
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