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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:35 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:If he was your employee and you dismissed him for doing something in his own time you will find yourself in court for unfair dismissal.


Not so. Someone who commits murder probably does it in their own time. Employees can be dismissed for gross misconduct away from the workplace and indeed many are.
Anyhow - it seems Hull have decided to deal with it internally. In my view it sends out the wrong message, but on the upside it’s less likely an NRL club will want him so he’ll stay in SL.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:37 pm 
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The Hollywood Frasier wrote:I wonder what nottinghamtiger thought about the homophobic abuse Castleford fans put Gareth Thomas through which resulted in a £40,000 fine.

"The tribunal was chaired by his Honour Judge Rodney Grant, who criticised the club for failing to take steps to stop the homophobic chanting, for failing to identify the perpetrators, for failing to challenge the chanting and for their failure to undertake a meaningful inquiry afterwards."


Same really. Completely unacceptable. Indeed, we have some moronic supporters who will cost us money again in the near future. The chant about Shaun Wane is disgusting and it’s a matter of time before they land us in bother again.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:49 pm 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:Not so. Someone who commits murder probably does it in their own time. Employees can be dismissed for gross misconduct away from the workplace and indeed many are.
Anyhow - it seems Hull have decided to deal with it internally. In my view it sends out the wrong message, but on the upside it’s less likely an NRL club will want him so he’ll stay in SL.


It's very so for dismissing someone just because they've made a tool of themselves. Bringing murder into the argument ffs Kelly acted a tool it's not a hanging offence.
I'd like to see you successfully dismiss someone for being drunk in their own time and not at the work place and being obnoxious as you will find that is almost impossible no matter what the company policy is on behaviour.






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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:It's very so for dismissing someone just because they've made a tool of themselves. Bringing murder into the argument ffs Kelly acted a tool it's not a hanging offence.
I'd like to see you successfully dismiss someone for being drunk in their own time and not at the work place and being obnoxious as you will find that is almost impossible no matter what the company policy is on behaviour.

nottinghamtiger is a troll, and a poor one.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:03 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:It's very so for dismissing someone just because they've made a tool of themselves. Bringing murder into the argument ffs Kelly acted a tool it's not a hanging offence.
I'd like to see you successfully dismiss someone for being drunk in their own time and not at the work place and being obnoxious as you will find that is almost impossible no matter what the company policy is on behaviour.


I guess it depends on the context.
Many professions have a nationally agreed professional framework that has to be followed at work and out of work, such as doctors, nurses, police officers, teachers......). Anyone in these professions would certainly be disciplined for the type of behaviour Kelly exhibited and likely be dismissed.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:12 pm 
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... and still you go on and on and on.

He has been disciplined, based, one assumes, and all the facts, not just a snippet.

If you really want to see foul and abusive language, take a look at some of the twitter accounts discussing Kelly, probably when they were stone cold sober (or not).






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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:19 pm 
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ccs wrote:... and still you go on and on and on.

He has been disciplined, based, one assumes, and all the facts, not just a snippet.

If you really want to see foul and abusive language, take a look at some of the twitter accounts discussing Kelly, probably when they were stone cold sober (or not).


I don’t do Twitter for that reason.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
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nottinghamtiger wrote:Can’t say I remember any other players calling people sluts and whores, nope.
Nor have I heard anyone doing the same in Nottingham (though doubtless it does happen).
Of course unpleasantness happens. But just because it happens, doesn’t mean it should be condoned. I wouldn’t support any player at Cas who did the same thing.


I am guessing from this you have not ever been out in Nottingham over the last l My 15 years then.

You are mr snowflake and I want my £5.






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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
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nottinghamtiger wrote:I guess it depends on the context.
Many professions have a nationally agreed professional framework that has to be followed at work and out of work, such as doctors, nurses, police officers, teachers......). Anyone in these professions would certainly be disciplined for the type of behaviour Kelly exhibited and likely be dismissed.

bullshine, no employer can summarily dismiss someone for out of work behaviour, it's called EMPLOYMENT LAW.

You don't do Twitter because you wouldn't even follow yourself.

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PCollinson1990 wrote:nottinghamtiger is a troll, and a poor one.


We just don’t agree. That’s different to trolling. I have no issue with you having a different opinion.

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