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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:17 pm 
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Hasbag wrote::lol: :CRAZY:


Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:21 pm 
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Only just noticed on second viewing that a Police officer walks past at the end of the video, surely if the staff felt so threatened theyd have shouted him over, instead of just videoing for social media?

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:22 pm 
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He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:25 pm 
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The Reason wrote:Taken off VT


He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.


That’s my post on the VT.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:38 pm 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.


Ignoring that fact that you don’t know what was said/done before the video clip, of course.






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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:47 pm 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.


Do nothing or sack him, they are two very different things?

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:56 pm 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:That’s my post on the VT.


Seeing as he's your new bezzy mate could you ask him what he was implying about Albert's wife?
He's being a little diversionary when I ask.

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:08 pm 
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[quote="Mrs Barista"]Try again. I said he was an idiot and there should be consequences.
Separately you said our fans as a collective were fickle for defending him. I said if they were defending him that made them loyal not fickle.
/quote]

You never you said ..Surely we are the most faithful we loved him before and are sort of defending him now “

Therefore you condone what he did cockle . Verbally abusing a young girl .

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
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nottinghamtiger wrote:Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.

No point us sacking him as I don't think you have the cap space






The poor man's bonaire

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 Post subject: Re: Our Albert
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Mrs Barista wrote:
He's an idiot off the pitch and there should be consequences.



[quote="Mrs Baritsa "]Surely we are the most faithful we loved him before and are sort of defending him now “

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