You really think he should be sacked for this? The culture thing is on the pitch and whilst at the club. He deserved to be told off, but there is no way he should be sacked.

If he behaviour continues, fair enough, but after this one incident, there is no way he should be sacked.

I expect the club to release a statement tomorrow saying Kelly has been internally disciplined and him to play in France next week.

Agree with the above.

Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.

Your Q on the VT.
"Has anyone seen Kelly's wife?"
Are you going to elaborate further for us?

Will have to agree to disagree, rugby players have done a lot worst and not been sacked. I'd say the same if he was a Rovers or Cas player, massive overreaction from some people.

I was surprised at the initial reaction. I thought there’d be a wider range, based on previous experience. While, as has been pointed out a few times, this isn’t the worst thing ever, it still belongs somewhere on the spectrum of bad things.

Carney served an 8 match ban for racially abusing an opponent, which seems broadly proportionate for such a serious offence. Salford released him a couple of weeks later and he served out the rest of the ban with Rovers. He behaved badly, was punished and then resumed his career.

From what we’ve seen, it looks to me that Kelly has behaved badly, should probably be punished and can then get on with things. Like anybody, he deserves a chance to explain himself to his employer. In any case, the circumstances are different to Carney’s situation and any punishment should reflect that. As far as i’m aware, sexist abuse is not covered by the same legislation as racist abuse, so there’s an arguable case for it being viewed less seriously, and also it didn’t happen in a game so the responsibility falls to the club rather than the RFL. Without significant mitigation, to me a proportionate response would be something like a fine, a warning, an apology and, possibly, get him to attend a relevant course - alcohol awareness, anger management or similar. I disagree with those who believe that a quiet word from Radford would, by itself, be sufficient or send the right signal and those who think that it’s not even really worthy of attention. That some are offering joking validation is somewhat dismaying. I know ribaldry is part of our tradition, and there’s undoubtedly a comedic element to his behaviour - but in a laugh at rather than laugh with way.

Anyway, I shall say no more about it here. I even promise.

On the drug dealer thing, obviously with everything that comes with it in current circumstances it is both very serious and different to use, especially given the involvement of organised crime groups. However, if the trade was regulated, rather than illegal, like that for some other potentially harmful things, such as alcohol, tobacco, and (more relevantly to the US) firearms, i’d regard the trade as somewhere in amongst those. One for the Sin Bin, innit? I don’t think UK gun laws should be relaxed, btw.



I’m sorry if that is how you feel. Thank you though for assuaging my guilt, and sparing me any further self-flaggelation. It’s a weight off.

Have a nice evening.

Surely Hull FC and Adam Pearson will not do this .

Go on.
Tell us about Kelly's wife?

Perhaps so.
I’m pretty hard-line on player conduct. They don’t just represent their club, but the game as a whole. I don’t want people thinking RL players go around getting shit-faced, calling women sluts and whores and threatening to assault them.
I feel we have to take a hard-line against such behaviour.