Joined: Feb 21 2003 Posts: 3460 Location: West Hull
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Well I don't think he is the sharpest tool in the box, and I agree he doesn't seem to be able to handle his ale very well. But what he's done is hardly the crime of the century.
The Dobbins are desperate for some good news to take their minds off their own problems.
I dare say players from either team will have been in similar situations and states but they are obsessed with Kelly and praying for the day he cocks up. Hence the filming and hence the number that have suddenly appeared on here again.
My only worry was how come he was eating food like that on top of the huge fish and chips they were all eating earlier in the day. Not a good diet for a top sportsman.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12656 Location: Leicestershire.
fun time frankie wrote:Just watched the video not a real lot in it he's just really drunk which isn't a surprise as we all know he's a bit of pisshead I can also understand why some think he's on drugs
Aye, it’s drunken boorish man does drunken boorish thing. Not a big surprise. And, as Dave K notes, for a less polarising figure, there’d be a less polarised reaction.
What’s been a bit weird, imo, is the reaction to it from fans of Hull and Rovers, not in scale or direction, which were entirely predictable, but in even seeing what is problematic with his behaviour. Watching it, the big thing that leapt out at me was his use of s*** and, on second viewing, w****, along with him puffing out his chest and ‘come on then’ stare. Obviously he was very drunk, but his jaw movements didn’t occur to me to be an issue, and the drug test thing just seemed to be an opportunity for him to get off the hook if/when it came back negative. I guess others realised sooner than me that there wasn’t going to be much of a hook. The imagined provocation, while plausible, seems a bit of a leap at this stage and I was curious to see where ccs’ conspiracy theory was going.
Oddest of all was the ‘he’s entitled to eat chicken nuggets’ angle, as if his menu choice was the heart of the mattter.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12656 Location: Leicestershire.
davey37 wrote: My only worry was how come he was eating food like that on top of the huge fish and chips they were all eating earlier in the day. Not a good diet for a top sportsman.
I do now half expect the Hull FC club statement to include things like ‘our club dietician has made our expectations clear to Albert and our retail team will be working hard with him to find a better hat.’
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Burtons Forearm wrote:Australian aboriginals, North American Indians and South East Asians do not have an enzyme that metabolizes alcohol. They get drunk quicker and develop alcohol related harm quicker. Alcohol is banned in reservations and in tribal areas as a result. He's drunk in this video nothing more. However he should be ashamed but he won't be its not in his character. Interestingly no one else other than the poor girl being intimidated looks worried\bothered. There is a copper in the background at one point.
whilst not wanting to start an argument, you are completely wrong about a "missing" enzyme, that is a myth.
Fans of every other team in the league will just be willing for there to be something drugs related involved in this, because they all know how much of a threat he is on the pitch and how much it takes away from out attack when he doesn't play.
PCollinson1990 wrote:whilst not wanting to start an argument, you are completely wrong about a "missing" enzyme, that is a myth.
Deffecient enzyme is more accurate but the effect is the same in those that are defficient. Read Casarett & Doull’s Toxicology: The basic Science of Poison by Curtis D. Klaassen and read this, it'll explain it better for you. https://bsclarified.wordpress.com/2011/ ... nt-enzyme/
As for Kelly, man goes out and gets vexed and exchanges a few words shocker, probably goaded by the one doing the filming. Role model, only to some deluded types who think that those they and their kids delight in watching playing rugby should have some influence to how they live their lives. Go look elsewhere. IF he's doing something other than a bit of excessive drinking then I hope it's found out and dealt with accordingly, there is no evidence from what I saw that confirms anything other than a few too many ales.
PCollinson1990 wrote:whilst not wanting to start an argument, you are completely wrong about a "missing" enzyme, that is a myth.
Deffecient enzyme is more accurate but the effect is the same in those that are defficient. Read Casarett & Doull’s Toxicology: The basic Science of Poison by Curtis D. Klaassen and read this, it'll explain it better for you. https://bsclarified.wordpress.com/2011/ ... nt-enzyme/
As for Kelly, man goes out and gets vexed and exchanges a few words shocker, probably goaded by the one doing the filming. Role model, only to some deluded types who think that those they and their kids delight in watching playing rugby should have some influence to how they live their lives. Go look elsewhere. IF he's doing something other than a bit of excessive drinking then I hope it's found out and dealt with accordingly, there is no evidence from what I saw that confirms anything other than a few too many ales.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:Deffecient enzyme is more accurate but the effect is the same in those that are defficient. Read Casarett & Doull’s Toxicology: The basic Science of Poison by Curtis D. Klaassen and read this, it'll explain it better for you. https://bsclarified.wordpress.com/2011/ ... nt-enzyme/
As for Kelly, man goes out and gets vexed and exchanges a few words shocker, probably goaded by the one doing the filming. Role model, only to some deluded types who think that those they and their kids delight in watching playing rugby should have some influence to how they live their lives. Go look elsewhere. IF he's doing something other than a bit of excessive drinking then I hope it's found out and dealt with accordingly, there is no evidence from what I saw that confirms anything other than a few too many ales.
it has been proven to be untrue (enzyme deficiency), Klassen is a theorist who regularly writes fiction, dressed up as facts. The issues with alcohol are the same for every race, creed, colour... Kelly got drunk, behaved badly (which we've all done at times, esoecially on here) IF there's more to it then, as you say, he has to face consequences.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:Deffecient enzyme is more accurate but the effect is the same in those that are defficient. Read Casarett & Doull’s Toxicology: The basic Science of Poison by Curtis D. Klaassen and read this, it'll explain it better for you. https://bsclarified.wordpress.com/2011/ ... nt-enzyme/
As for Kelly, man goes out and gets vexed and exchanges a few words shocker, probably goaded by the one doing the filming. Role model, only to some deluded types who think that those they and their kids delight in watching playing rugby should have some influence to how they live their lives. Go look elsewhere. IF he's doing something other than a bit of excessive drinking then I hope it's found out and dealt with accordingly, there is no evidence from what I saw that confirms anything other than a few too many ales.
it has been proven to be untrue (enzyme deficiency), Klassen is a theorist who regularly writes fiction, dressed up as facts. The issues with alcohol are the same for every race, creed, colour... Kelly got drunk, behaved badly (which we've all done at times, esoecially on here) IF there's more to it then, as you say, he has to face consequences.
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