I think he meant outside the top 4 . 5678

You said middle 8s at best.

Most of Griffins good work he can do from the 2nd row. Leaving 2 creative centres in Carlos and Connor.

thanks, that is exactly what I meant.

As I said. Stupidity.

so you think we look CURRENTLY like a top 4 side?

on paper, yes, but the game isn't played on paper

That comment was about you mixing up middle 8 and not making the 4. It was a bit below the belt but I am only joking.

Right now, no. But we arent miles away and a couple of big wins changes everything. Leeds and Warrington are not better than us from what I have seen. We do need to win tomorrow though otherwise its an uphill battle. Having the back rows back will make a big difference.

But you're changing the argument. You specifically said Middle Eights which everyone recognises as bottom 4 of Superleague and top 4 of championship.

In fairness I think he meant Super 8s first off but got mixed up and put Middle 8s.

Surely nobody thinks we are a bottom 4 side no matter how scratchy we've been?!

I don't, the middle eight are the eight teams below the top four, perhaps I worded it incorrectly.

And it wasn't an argument.