Wires71 wrote:It wasn't a move straight off the training pitch It was Atkins first and only pass of the game I think. It was early in the tackle count. Atkins has a well established track record of being poop at passing (even by his own admission) There is no rapport between Charnley and Adkins established yet (have they even played together before) which would result in a successful telepathic path.
Taken in that context I cannot blame Charnley.
Charnley came off his wing to run behind Atkins....you can't blame Atkins for not having eyes in the back of his head!
Look the simple rule is...whenever 2 parties are involved in anything...accident, whatever, there is always a share of blame. That is the law of the land. One generally carries a greater share and is often liable....but not 100% responsible!
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rubber duckie wrote:Charnley came off his wing to run behind Atkins....you can't blame Atkins for not having eyes in the back of his head!
Look the simple rule is...whenever 2 parties are involved in anything...accident, whatever, there is always a share of blame. That is the law of the land. One generally carries a greater share and is often liable....but not 100% responsible!
I'm sort of with you on the Atkins pass, but I hope to god you aren't a lawyer if that is your understanding of the law.
Just my opinions unless it's a FACT, in which case it's a fact.
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rubber duckie wrote:You be surprised how strange it is. ..
If someone rear end shunts your car... you too have shared blame but not liable because the greatest share of blame is with the person behind you.
I was stationary on my motorbike and got shunted by a young lad in a car. I was giving way, indicating, weather was clear and it was broad daylight. How was I > 0% to blame?
Wires71 wrote:I was stationary on my motorbike and got shunted by a young lad in a car. I was giving way, indicating, weather was clear and it was broad daylight. How was I > 0% to blame?
You have a share of blame. I didn't say too blame(as in 100%) or the cause.
Well....here is the thing that makes you have some small blame.... Had you have not gone out on your motorcycle that day....you wouldn't have been rear shunted. That is your blame...that small piece of blame is enough if a passenger was on your bike and possibly a passenger in the offenders car, to make a claim against you, should the driver be uninsured!
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rubber duckie wrote:You have a share of blame. I didn't say too blame(as in 100%) or the cause.
Well....here is the thing that makes you have some small blame.... Had you have not gone out on your motorcycle that day....you wouldn't have been rear shunted. That is your blame...that small piece of blame is enough if a passenger was on your bike and possibly a passenger in the offenders car, to make a claim against you, should the driver be uninsured!
You don't need "blame" to start a civil action. Anyone can attempt a civil action over anything. Whether it succeeds or not is another matter.
I'm going to stay in today, in case I get a % of blame for anything else.
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Wires71 wrote:You don't need "blame" to start a civil action. Anyone can attempt a civil action over anything. Whether it succeeds or not is another matter.
I'm going to stay in today, in case I get a % of blame for anything else.
As someone who has 'attracted' three recent "NO FAULT" accidents, where I was stationary at a junction/lights I can 100% confirm that I was not to blame legally or morally.
However, as you can appreciate that 'fair and reasonable profession' the insurance industry, do up your premium as they simplistically and bizarrely categorize the 'no fault party' as some kind of 'magnet' for this unwanted situation
Back to the game, a hard fought two points, scrappy in parts later on especially yours truly as I had a great 'dusk till dawn' day out. I even managed a Guinness fuelled 'chat' with the Good Doctor which was probably nearly as much fun for him as one of my incidents. Total gibberish but I blame him
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rubber duckie wrote:You have a share of blame. I didn't say too blame(as in 100%) or the cause.
Well....here is the thing that makes you have some small blame.... Had you have not gone out on your motorcycle that day....you wouldn't have been rear shunted. That is your blame...that small piece of blame is enough if a passenger was on your bike and possibly a passenger in the offenders car, to make a claim against you, should the driver be uninsured!
Dunno what planet you lads live on, but my situation seems to be unique: anything goes wrong in our household and I automatically get 100% of the blame. Even if I was down the pub at the time.
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