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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:03 am 
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Again, it's passing for the sake of passing.

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Toby king signs contract extension this morning.

Price sees something in him.

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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:Toby king signs contract extension this morning.

Price sees something in him.


Yep it's a good extension. Just 1 year. Not like a Matty Russell 3 year one.

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oaksey1011 wrote:If having it "both ways" means passing the ball to your winger or holding the ball if the pass isn't on, I would hope that we could have it both ways.


Clearly the pass was on, because he made it. If Charnley scores from it, noone comes on here and says 'that was a ridiculous pass, he should really have held onto it.'






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The ball ended up in the stands because there was no winder outside of him, how is there a pass on there? People are saying 'that was a ridiculous pass, he should really have held onto it' because it was a ridiculous pass, and he should have held onto it!

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oaksey1011 wrote:The ball ended up in the stands because there was no winder outside of him, how is there a pass on there? People are saying 'that was a ridiculous pass, he should really have held onto it' because it was a ridiculous pass, and he should have held onto it!


Exactly the responsibility lies with the passer to pass to the receiver, not the receiver to be where the pass is going to.

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Wires71 wrote:Exactly the responsibility lies with the passer to pass to the receiver, not the receiver to be where the pass is going to.

Disagree completely. You cannot play ball unless it's a shared responsibility.

Scenario...if this there was a move straight off the training pitch....
It involves a no look pass to a runner from Roberts...the move is practiced over and over...
On the game day the move is on...the runner falters for whatever reason...obstructed, trips...has a Vape!...it doesn't matter...

Are you saying 100% Roberts is at fault?






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Wires71 wrote:Exactly the responsibility lies with the passer to pass to the receiver, not the receiver to be where the pass is going to.


There is a fine line here though between the passer making the right / wrong decision to pass or the receiver being in the right / wrong position to collect.
There have been games in the past when attackers have thrown some miracle balls / offloads from the tackle into a position they expect the support player to be. They make these passes while under pressure, with tacklers around them, not knowing for sure that their support player is there but they do it anyway in hope that the support player is where he expects him to be.

The Atkins pass falls into this category for me. Atkins chances his arm and, had Charnley stuck to his wing, the try was on and Charnley would have had a walk in. As it happens, the pass was on (as he made it / didnt drop it or fumble it) but Charnely wasnt where Atkins expected him to be. Maybe communication was the problem, maybe it was a bad read from both players, but to just lay blame solely at Atkins door is wrong in my opinion.

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Like I pointed at before...John Fieldhouse.
A ball playing backrower....too far ahead of our team. He was reading plays expecting runners....and ends up throwing balls into the Brian Bevan stand. We all pulled our hair out over it.
Eventually going to Saints via Widnes I recall....then ripping us up with some sublime passes with men on the end of them, he still didn't look...progressed to the British Lions.






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rubber duckie wrote:Disagree completely. You cannot play ball unless it's a shared responsibility.

Scenario...if this there was a move straight off the training pitch....
It involves a no look pass to a runner from Roberts...the move is practiced over and over...
On the game day the move is on...the runner falters for whatever reason...obstructed, trips...has a Vape!...it doesn't matter...

Are you saying 100% Roberts is at fault?


It wasn't a move straight off the training pitch
It was Atkins first and only pass of the game I think.
It was early in the tackle count.
Atkins has a well established track record of being poop at passing (even by his own admission)
There is no rapport between Charnley and Adkins established yet (have they even played together before) which would result in a successful telepathic path.

Taken in that context I cannot blame Charnley.

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