Mrs Barista wrote:I said we were at financial risk, which was the case (and remains so if we can't be self-sustaining). Fortunately the Faithful continued to back the club following Adam's rallying call, and with the galvanizing impact of Lee Radford here we are, back to back Wembley winners and cash in the bank from Australia. Who'd have thought it?
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PCollinson1990 wrote:more shoite, do you live with Bumpy?
Which bit's untrue? Financial risk - see the going concern note in the filed accounts Did Adam issue a rallying call? Er, yes. Did fans respond? I think so if season pass and merchandise sales of recent years are anything to go by Has Lee Radford galvanized the squad since the days of Agar and Gentle? Team spirit and togetherness are consistently cited by players as a key factor in our success. We won back to back at Wembley, right? I think you've seen reports about the financial benefits of Australia.
No need to try and get round the swear filter. Reasoned arguments are a more mature way to respond I think.
Mrs Barista wrote:I think the point is the perception that we are clueless in attack and rely entirely on Albert Kelly to score points is not borne out by facts. If you want to bring in who we've played against so far that further weakens your argument as we've played Leeds, Cas, Wigan and Saints away, so to be one of only 3 clubs with >200 points is not too bad. Kelly has scored 3 of our 35 tries so far this year and has fewer assists than both Sneyd and Shaul.
Kelly is the only player in our squad who when attacking with ball in hand puts fear in the opposition. Clueless attack is borne out by our inability to break down a defence in the opposition 20 despite repeat sets and relying in the main on a kick to the corner.
Mrs Barista wrote:I think the point is the perception that we are clueless in attack and rely entirely on Albert Kelly to score points is not borne out by facts. If you want to bring in who we've played against so far that further weakens your argument as we've played Leeds, Cas, Wigan and Saints away, so to be one of only 3 clubs with >200 points is not too bad. Kelly has scored 3 of our 35 tries so far this year and has fewer assists than both Sneyd and Shaul.
I've not mentioned once, Kelly been our only attacking threat . I actually think we've plenty of strike , if used correctly , I think Connor can unlock a defence as good as anyone, for me must start, Carlos is as skilfull as they come , and snyed's kicking game can be outstanding, when our forwards are on top. I'd just like to see our backs used more in midfield and and more off loads from our forwards with Shaul supporting , we do and have looked pretty obvious for sometime now . Andy doesn't really weaken my argument , if anything proves my point , we lost all 3 of the games you mentioned, our attack struggles against decent opposition, I don't really think it's an argument, I think most on here can see our attack as been pretty poor for a while now
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bonaire wrote:Kelly is the only player in our squad who when attacking with ball in hand puts fear in the opposition. Clueless attack is borne out by our inability to break down a defence in the opposition 20 despite repeat sets and relying in the main on a kick to the corner.
You mean utilising Sneyd's attacking kick ability to hit our best aerial attacking player in Talanoa? Sounds a reasonable attacking ploy IMO.
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Tinkerman23 wrote:I've not mentioned once, Kelly been our only attacking threat . I actually think we've plenty of strike , if used correctly , I think Connor can unlock a defence as good as anyone, for me must start, Carlos is as skilfull as they come , and snyed's kicking game can be outstanding, when our forwards are on top. I'd just like to see our backs used more in midfield and and more off loads from our forwards with Shaul supporting , we do and have looked pretty obvious for sometime now .
I agree that we are in the slightly unusual position from a Hull perspective of actually having talent and skill in our backs but through injury/idiocy not being able to get anywhere near our best pack on the park to lay a platform for them. Even discounting the Watts scenario, have we been able to have:
Taylor Houghton Paea Mini Manu Bowden
on the field as a unit for many games? If we could get closer to that it would be a help.
Mrs Barista wrote:Which bit's untrue? Financial risk - see the going concern note in the filed accounts Did Adam issue a rallying call? Er, yes. Did fans respond? I think so if season pass and merchandise sales of recent years are anything to go by Has Lee Radford galvanized the squad since the days of Agar and Gentle? Team spirit and togetherness are consistently cited by players as a key factor in our success. We won back to back at Wembley, right? I think you've seen reports about the financial benefits of Australia.
No need to try and get round the swear filter. Reasoned arguments are a more mature way to respond I think.
You, Bumpy, Seb... you should buy a pea green boat and leave true fans alone, but you wont, it's amazing what you can PRETEND to be behind a keyboard.
Mrs Barista wrote:I agree that we are in the slightly unusual position from a Hull perspective of actually having talent and skill in our backs but through injury/idiocy not being able to get anywhere near our best pack on the park to lay a platform for them. Even discounting the Watts scenario, have we been able to have:
Taylor Houghton Paea Mini Manu Bowden
on the field as a unit for many games? If we could get closer to that it would be a help.
Yeh completely agree , we'll be much more dangerous with that starting pack , but why don't we change our style of play with different personnel, it's naive thinking lane can come in and do the same job as manu or mini , we've no plan b and imo as been a problem for a few seasons now
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PCollinson1990 wrote:You, Bumpy, Seb... you should buy a pea green boat and leave true fans alone, but you wont, it's amazing what you can PRETEND to be behind a keyboard.
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