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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:22 pm 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:I agree and you've kind of backed up what knocker was saying . Radford deserved every chance to put a gf challenging team together , but I think every single person this forum would agree , he needs some help , i.e. Attacking coach , it's been plane for everyone to see for seasons now , same attacking problems no matter how good a squad we have


Plus if you take out Kelly from the attack we have nothing and thats even more concerning

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:27 pm 
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... although only wigan and saints have scored more tries than us. :)






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:32 pm 
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ccs wrote:... although only wigan and saints have scored more tries than us. :)

Good point, but I think it's our inability to break down good defences which is the problem
Plus we've played more games then most

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:09 pm 
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ccs wrote:... although only wigan and saints have scored more tries than us. :)

Ouch! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:14 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote: i see a slow decline from us now

In fairness this tends to be your default mindset. Didn't you say a couple of years ago that Pearson was killing the club and things would get worse?

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:16 pm 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Good point, but I think it's our inability to break down good defences which is the problem
Plus we've played more games then most


Fair enough, although cas would need to score 19 tries and leeds 7 to catch us up today.

Another boring stat - I reckon our starting 17 have missed 38 games this season, that averages nearly 4 per game.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:41 pm 
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ccs wrote:Fair enough, although cas would need to score 19 tries and leeds 7 to catch us up today.

Another boring stat - I reckon our starting 17 have missed 38 games this season, that averages nearly 4 per game.

Cas 3 games in hand Leeds 2 , I'm not convinced our attack is the 3rd best in the league, especially when you look at who most of our try's was against

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:44 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:In fairness this tends to be your default mindset. Didn't you say a couple of years ago that Pearson was killing the club and things would get worse?

Didn't you say we was going under and we wouldn't even have a team

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:52 pm 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Cas 3 games in hand Leeds 2 , I'm not convinced our attack is the 3rd best in the league, especially when you look at who most of our try's was against

I think the point is the perception that we are clueless in attack and rely entirely on Albert Kelly to score points is not borne out by facts. If you want to bring in who we've played against so far that further weakens your argument as we've played Leeds, Cas, Wigan and Saints away, so to be one of only 3 clubs with >200 points is not too bad. Kelly has scored 3 of our 35 tries so far this year and has fewer assists than both Sneyd and Shaul.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:03 pm 
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Tinkerman23 wrote:Didn't you say we was going under and we wouldn't even have a team

I said we were at financial risk, which was the case (and remains so if we can't be self-sustaining). Fortunately the Faithful continued to back the club following Adam's rallying call, and with the galvanizing impact of Lee Radford here we are, back to back Wembley winners and cash in the bank from Australia. Who'd have thought it? :D :D

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