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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:18 pm 
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fun time frankie wrote:Is it a game to see who can slag knockersbump off first every time he posts he obviously doesn't like Radford but at least he talks rugby and only offers an opinion isn't that the point of a forum


I have no problem with that but he's abusive to anyone who disagrees with him. If he simply posted his opinion and discussed it no one would care but anyone who dares to disagree is met with a load of abuse. I just enjoy winding him up TBH as the forum is boring as hell otherwise






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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:58 pm 
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Bring back the Bump
I’ve not seen a lot of his posts but he deserves a gold medal for persistence lol
Is he ok ? You know like properly ok ?
We need colour in life and if we were all the same we’d be robots
He’s angry that we’re not winning GFs
He’s angry that we don’t make GFs
He’s concerned we will finish 6-8th this season which is a disaster and certainly not what AP will be looking for
He can’t work out why we have no real attacking flair and haven’t replaced Ellis/Mahe correctly
He’s concerned at missed tackles and errors






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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:32 am 
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Tarquin Fuego wrote:Bring back the Bump
I’ve not seen a lot of his posts but he deserves a gold medal for persistence lol


Definitely a silver.

Quote:Is he ok ? You know like properly ok ?


A doctor of psychiatry would have a field day.

Quote:We need colour in life and if we were all the same we’d be robots


He owns a pink waistcoat with yellow dots.

Quote:He’s angry that we’re not winning GFs


Aren't we all? Although some of our anger is dulled with a heavy dose of realism.

Quote:He’s angry that we don’t make GFs


See above.

Quote:He’s concerned we will finish 6-8th this season which is a disaster and certainly not what AP will be looking for


When Peter Gentle managed that feat for two consecutive seasons Bumpy hailed him as the new messiah.

Quote:He can’t work out why we have no real attacking flair and haven’t replaced Ellis/Mahe correctly


He wittered on for the last two seasons that Ellis wasn't worth his spot and wasn't value for money. Madness to the majority of us, I'd hazard a guess at.

Quote:He’s concerned at missed tackles and errors


The wheel will keep turning.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:59 am 
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Jake the Peg wrote:I have no problem with that but he's abusive to anyone who disagrees with him. If he simply posted his opinion and discussed it no one would care but anyone who dares to disagree is met with a load of abuse. I just enjoy winding him up TBH as the forum is boring as hell otherwise


Ditto.
If it wasn't for the Bumpster tieing himself up in knots, and the Mrs Barista/Mild Rover tennis matches, then this place would be considerably bleaker.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:39 am 
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If you go into a game with a back 3 of Washbrook,Lane and Fash and cannot for the first 20 mins get out of your own half,you cannot expect to beat the team at the top away from home.We have lost some big players in the forwards in the last 2 seasons and not replaced them.I am not convinced the crop of youngsters we hear about all the time are as good as what they are made out to be,only time will tell,however I do not think we are strong enough this season to trouble the top 4.As for a hatrick of Wembley wins we will need a lot of luck in the draw.We are also copping injury after injury,no ones fault but without our best 17 being available we will continue to struggle

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:53 am 
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jeffers wrote:If you go into a game with a back 3 of Washbrook,Lane and Fash and cannot for the first 20 mins get out of your own half,you cannot expect to beat the team at the top away from home.We have lost some big players in the forwards in the last 2 seasons and not replaced them.I am not convinced the crop of youngsters we hear about all the time are as good as what they are made out to be,only time will tell,however I do not think we are strong enough this season to trouble the top 4.As for a hatrick of Wembley wins we will need a lot of luck in the draw.We are also copping injury after injury,no ones fault but without our best 17 being available we will continue to struggle


From a forwards perspective we've lost Ellis and brought in/back Paea and Hadley, plus will have expected more than last year from the likes of Fash and Masi, so in the round that's not unreasonable squad management IMO. I don't believe any club has acquired a forward of Ellis' stature recently, he simply can't be replaced like for like in the current market. The big damage is losing Watts unexpectedly mid season; arguably a long vs short term decision but even for next year I just can't see a player of his quality to become available and in the short term this has been compounded with injuries to Hadley, Houghton, Sika, Minichiello and Fash, plus Bowden playing jabbed up. On reflection to go away to the champions-elect who've only lost one game and keep it respectable, with Faraimo also missing and losing Talanoa during the game, was not a disastrous outcome.

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Mrs Barista wrote:From a forwards perspective we've lost Ellis and brought in/back Paea and Hadley, plus will have expected more than last year from the likes of Fash and Masi, so in the round that's not unreasonable squad management IMO. I don't believe any club has acquired a forward of Ellis' stature recently, he simply can't be replaced like for like in the current market. The big damage is losing Watts unexpectedly mid season; arguably a long vs short term decision but even for next year I just can't see a player of his quality to become available and in the short term this has been compounded with injuries to Hadley, Houghton, Sika, Minichiello and Fash, plus Bowden playing jabbed up. On reflection to go away to the champions-elect who've only lost one game and keep it respectable, with Faraimo also missing and losing Talanoa during the game, was not a disastrous outcome.


In isolation the loss isn't a disaster but when added into the previous 9 games it's a worrying continuation on a trend. When was the last time you watched us and thought we'd played to our best for the full 80 minutes? Probably the semi final at donny last year for me.

Way too many games where we make too many errors, lose concentration (don't get me started on kick offs after we've scored), miss too many tackles, give away too many penalties or fail to turn pressure into points.

I do think we've missed a golden opportunity in 2016 and 2017 where most of the other "big" clubs weren't at their best to really write the current squad into the history books. We could have won the double in both seasons IMO as we had the best squad in the comp for those 2 years






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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:38 am 
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Need a comfortable win at Widnes to settle nerves.

Sadly I see another struggle 'a la Salford' - our attack is pedestrian & unimaginative. Fonua a huge loss as well as Ellis & Watts. Too reliant on individuals breaking line.

Can't see a top 4 spot after 23 games, especially given current crop of injuries.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:08 am 
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Jake the Peg wrote:In isolation the loss isn't a disaster but when added into the previous 9 games it's a worrying continuation on a trend. When was the last time you watched us and thought we'd played to our best for the full 80 minutes? Probably the semi final at donny last year for me.

Way too many games where we make too many errors, lose concentration (don't get me started on kick offs after we've scored), miss too many tackles, give away too many penalties or fail to turn pressure into points.

I do think we've missed a golden opportunity in 2016 and 2017 where most of the other "big" clubs weren't at their best to really write the current squad into the history books. We could have won the double in both seasons IMO as we had the best squad in the comp for those 2 years


Radders not the Dadders certain people make out? I dont think so. Hes a good coach who will go down as a great because of the Wembley double but imo hes taken this and HIS team as far as he can bit like Tony Smith did with Wire. Too many bad things have never changed in his tenure and i see a slow decline from us now

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:46 am 
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Jake the Peg wrote:In isolation the loss isn't a disaster but when added into the previous 9 games it's a worrying continuation on a trend. When was the last time you watched us and thought we'd played to our best for the full 80 minutes? Probably the semi final at donny last year for me.

Way too many games where we make too many errors, lose concentration (don't get me started on kick offs after we've scored), miss too many tackles, give away too many penalties or fail to turn pressure into points.

I do think we've missed a golden opportunity in 2016 and 2017 where most of the other "big" clubs weren't at their best to really write the current squad into the history books. We could have won the double in both seasons IMO as we had the best squad in the comp for those 2 years

I agree and you've kind of backed up what knocker was saying . Radford deserved every chance to put a gf challenging team together , but I think every single person this forum would agree , he needs some help , i.e. Attacking coach , it's been plane for everyone to see for seasons now , same attacking problems no matter how good a squad we have

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