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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:03 am 
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:Still not out of it?

Your middle 8’s bound IMO

if we play like last night, I agree, we have no real grunt in the forwards, and can't complete a tackle without three men in it, and not wrapping the ball up. I don't get this "mental fatigue" rubbish either, these are professional players earning at least double the average salary in Hull.

Last night was blumin awful, attack was pedestrian and predictable.

Hull FC need to get their 541t together...

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:36 am 
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Jake the Peg wrote:There you go again making stuff up. I never once said we'd finish bottom 4. If we did the season would hardly be over would it? If you took a little time to read what people put instead of getting yourself into a frothy frenzy trying to look clever you might be a little more credible

Yes you did, you said season over at the split, can't mean anything else can it! You obviously don't rate the cup either, as you said it's season over at round 23 :CRAZY:

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:40 am 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:Yes you did, you said season over at the split, can't mean anything else can it! You obviously don't rate the cup either, as you said it's season over at round 23 :CRAZY:

have you ever considered an "online sponsored silence"?

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:44 am 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:have you ever considered an "online sponsored silence"?

your 50 minutes were up long ago, off you trot :lol:
You make the Wigan walk look like a protest sit in, no effort you said, you should be embarrassed for yourself hypocrite.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:53 am 
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:your 50 minutes were up long ago, off you trot :lol:
You make the Wigan walk look like a protest sit in, no effort you said, you should be embarrassed for yourself hypocrite.

I'm (as ever) struggling to find your point?

stay in London, keep embarassing yourself posting tripe. The only person your opinion matters to are the voices in your head.

Enjoy your Saturday, I hope it isn't raining like it is here.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:17 am 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:In comparison to the same fixtures last season (swapping Leigh away for Rovers away) we are just two points down so no need for any panic yet. The fixtures have been a little skewed so far with arguably our toughest four away games already played. That we failed to win any is unfortunate but we only won one of them last season.

We probably need another five wins from thirteen to make the top eight and eight or nine to ensure four home games.

Good context. Any team needs some element of luck and we’ve done well with injuries over the last two years, not so much this. Coupled with Watts leaving (massive call) and a tough run of fixtures, it doesn’t look great ATM. The positives for me have been our centres who’ve been great, Taylor, back to his best, and the number of homegrown players now establishing themselves as SL players. But we’re struggling in the back row - last year we had Ellis, Manu and Mini, last night it was Washy, Lane, Fash. No disrespect intended whatever but you can’t expect parity of performance. As said already, target one is 5 more wins. Won’t be easy with half a dozen sidelined. I certainly wouldn’t want to be in the middle 8s, not just to avoid the MPG but doubt it would help your cause if the league reduces to 10 as rumoured.

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:22 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Good context. Any team needs some element of luck and we’ve done well with injuries over the last two years, not so much this. Coupled with Watts leaving (massive call) and a tough run of fixtures, it doesn’t look great ATM. The positives for me have been our centres who’ve been great, Taylor, back to his best, and the number of homegrown players now establishing themselves as SL players. But we’re struggling in the back row - last year we had Ellis, Manu and Mini, last night it was Washy, Lane, Fash. No disrespect intended whatever but you can’t expect parity of performance. As said already, target one is 5 more wins. Won’t be easy with half a dozen sidelined. I certainly wouldn’t want to be in the middle 8s, not just to avoid the MPG but doubt it would help your cause if the league reduces to 10 as rumoured.

where have you heard the reduction to ten?

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:37 am 
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Plenty of effort last night , well beaten by a good Saints side .
Our pack this season can’t seem to get us on the front foot like the last couple of seasons. We are finding it hard to gain territory.
Worryingly another 2 injures picked up . On that note , we seem to be picking up a lot of calf injuries. Just a coincidence?






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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:40 am 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:where have you heard the reduction to ten?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/no-he ... r-olympics
PCollinson1990 wrote:where have you heard the reduction to ten?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/no-he ... r-olympics

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 Post subject: Re: St Helens
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:57 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Good context. Any team needs some element of luck and we’ve done well with injuries over the last two years, not so much this. Coupled with Watts leaving (massive call) and a tough run of fixtures, it doesn’t look great ATM. The positives for me have been our centres who’ve been great, Taylor, back to his best, and the number of homegrown players now establishing themselves as SL players. But we’re struggling in the back row - last year we had Ellis, Manu and Mini, last night it was Washy, Lane, Fash. No disrespect intended whatever but you can’t expect parity of performance. As said already, target one is 5 more wins. Won’t be easy with half a dozen sidelined. I certainly wouldn’t want to be in the middle 8s, not just to avoid the MPG but doubt it would help your cause if the league reduces to 10 as rumoured.

Absolute nonsense, that simply cannot happen for next season at the very least and we will not be in the M8s :CRAZY:
Home grown players are "establishing themselves" as std squad players, as Kirk Dixon said last year and this, our youngsters simply lack quality and experience and its noticeable. Only Fash is really a 1st XVII std player.

Radford's inability to develop players over the last 4 years is starting to show as it did last year and the salary cap problems stemming from the poop or bust 2016 season are continuing to effect us.
Still think Watts was sold on for £100k due to disciplinary reasons, not even close. We couldn't even get a bustling young kid from London Broncos under the cap or anyone else with experience to replace Watts.
Keep swallowing what Radford and Pearson dump off into your head!

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