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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:55 pm 
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hull2524 wrote:imo thats putting a square peg in a round hole, griffin is a centre and that's where hes been doing well, yea now and again if we have injuries on the field he can do the odd stint but not fulltime, we have to replace mini if hes going with another second rower, up to the other players to owst griffin,

:CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP: You come up with that on your own, see you can have your own opinion, well done, its only took yo 5 years.
Joking aside, I do actually agree with you

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:52 pm 
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hull2524 wrote:imo thats putting a square peg in a round hole, griffin is a centre and that's where hes been doing well, yea now and again if we have injuries on the field he can do the odd stint but not fulltime, we have to replace mini if hes going with another second rower, up to the other players to owst griffin,



Have to disagree with you about Griffin been just a centre.
He had his best game for the club against Wakefield because all aspects of his play were good including defence which has been his weak point.
There is no doubt his play has improved over the last month particularly his ability to make metres thats why i still see him as a second row as his strength,size and running style would make him difficult to tackle as a second row running wide.
No doubt he will start on Friday with Connor on the bench so at some time its likely Connor will come on for Griffin and Griffin will come back on into the second row to give Mini or Sika a break but i would like to see Griffin given more time in the second row and get him fit for the extra tackling and running with the ball you have to do as a second row.
You may disagree but just watch when Griffin starts to bust tackles from the second row which i think he can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:52 pm 
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Ellis started as a centre and moved to 2nd Row. Do you think people at the time said it was putting a square peg in a round hole? Griffin has more traits that suit a 2nd rower, IMO. I don't think he can create space for his winger, produce an offload, have good acceleration and can be exposed in defence. In the 2nd row we can utilise his power, his line running, his long stride

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:37 pm 
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Wilde 3 wrote:Ellis started as a centre and moved to 2nd Row. Do you think people at the time said it was putting a square peg in a round hole? Griffin has more traits that suit a 2nd rower, IMO. I don't think he can create space for his winger, produce an offload, have good acceleration and can be exposed in defence. In the 2nd row we can utilise his power, his line running, his long stride



Plenty of other examples Kirmond, Aspinwall, Wardle and Luke Lewis.

I think it's certainly an option, something maybe to try in a fe games this season and certainly in pre season

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:39 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Have to disagree with you about Griffin been just a centre.
He had his best game for the club against Wakefield because all aspects of his play were good including defence which has been his weak point.
There is no doubt his play has improved over the last month particularly his ability to make metres thats why i still see him as a second row as his strength,size and running style would make him difficult to tackle as a second row running wide.
No doubt he will start on Friday with Connor on the bench so at some time its likely Connor will come on for Griffin and Griffin will come back on into the second row to give Mini or Sika a break but i would like to see Griffin given more time in the second row and get him fit for the extra tackling and running with the ball you have to do as a second row.
You may disagree but just watch when Griffin starts to bust tackles from the second row which i think he can do.


I'm pretty sure that both Griffin and Connor will start in the backs on Friday

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:12 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:I'm pretty sure that both Griffin and Connor will start in the backs on Friday


Not sure Dave
If Sika Manu is fit he will tighten up the right edge and then can see Jack Logan on the right wing partnering Griffin and Connor starting on the bench.Radford seems to like having Connor swap with Griffin and Griffin coming back on late into the second half to give a bit more impact into the middle when we rotate Mini or Sika.
like you though for this game i would rather see Griffin on the right wing and Connor at right centre so we can have a bigger bench.

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:21 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:Plenty of other examples Kirmond, Aspinwall, Wardle and Luke Lewis.

I think it's certainly an option, something maybe to try in a fe games this season and certainly in pre season

Westwood was another centre turned back rower. I agree with those that say Griffen can play back row in the future, he has all the attributes for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Griffin and Shaul
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:09 am 
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Whats pleasing for me is that Griffin just got his head down, listened to the coach and worked on his game and earned his place in the 17. Its also interesting reading article the HDM, Radfords comments giving Griffin early ball in space suits his game so hopefully we will see this more often now.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

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