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 Post subject: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:06 pm 
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I mentioned after the Wigan game in Wollongong that Shaul was far too shallow at full back which easily enabled Marshall to outpace him twice on the outside (as well as once last season).
Today, for Webster's try, for me, he is far too shallow. Any break through the line and he has no chance of being in a position to affect a tackle. If he stands slightly deeper and doesn't over chase the play then he would have a chance. I also think his positioning is at fault on our own line. Huddersfield at home and now Cas away we have conceded tries from short kicks from dummy half and he hasn't been in the picture - he stands in the line when his job is to protect the in goal area not be a defender

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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:19 am 
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I agree - he is a full back that very rarely saves tries.

The grubber kick try was awful. On replays you could see he started to go the other way (presumably thinking Gale would get the ball), then when it went the other side he couldn't get there in time.

Totally dumb in my opinion. He had to wait to see which way the ball was going before setting off! The play the ball was central by the posts and he is very quick over first 10 meteres. He could have covered either way.

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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:46 am 
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He seems to have gone backwards so far this season

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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:09 pm 
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I just cant see a place in Super league for Shaul once his pace has gone down.

Defensively he is all over the place, comes up with crucial errors when catching kicks and really stifles our attack when he comes into the line.






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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:32 am 
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Sounds like we've found our scapegoat for this season.






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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:44 am 
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ccs wrote:Sounds like we've found our scapegoat for this season.


Quite agree. Not his best game but he's generally good and played very well against St George. He's never been a great one on one tackler but his fielding of kicks is usually good. The low bright sun made catching high balls extremely difficult, Cas weren't too good with them either.

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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:27 am 
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ccs wrote:Sounds like we've found our scapegoat for this season.


Not at all.

Apart from the dropped bombs which I can excuse on this occasion the rest is things I have been saying for a while now.

Our attack suffers greatly due to his poor positioning and ponderous nature. Think this gets overlooked because he is a good runner and scores the odd outstanding try.

We need more from him than that though.

Some are touting him for England/GB but for me he is nowhere near an International full back.






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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:55 am 
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had a poor game against cas, but imo has the X factor we need, some of his tries last year not many would have scored, but his positioning has gone amiss this year,






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 Post subject: Re: Shaul's Positioning
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:57 am 
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Shaul had a shocker on Saturday, thats generally agreed.

However, spin the clock back 12 months and he has a night mare of a game at Huddersfield, dropping the ball whilst unchallenged on a number of occasions. We won that game easily so it was brushed over a little at the time.

Shaul then went on a great run of form.

Lets give him a break, but he need to be aware (from the coaching staff) that with competition for places, there are no guarantees if he has another below par performance.






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If I was Radders I'd threaten him with physical violence again.
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