We probably need the leg up but it's ridiculous when there are plenty of other nationality refs out there

Agreed.
Thaler really is a c0ck.

To be fair the refs letting Lebanon hold on something chronic

Poor game and Thaler not helping that.

At least the ref is consistent.
He manages to get things wrong for both sides.

luke gale is a waste of a shirt at this level.

Could have used a couple of scarecrows instead of Ratchford and Gale

gale was MOS so you can see why they took him but ratchford wasn't even a stand out player in a club that finished in the bottom 4 and stuttered through the middle 8's. If we keep playing the same players we'll carry on seeing the same types of performances

English ones you mean?

We can debate all day about optimal selection, but fundamentally the reason England struggle to match the performance levels of Australia is very similar to the reason France struggle to match the performance levels of England.

Does anybody know GB/England's record against the Aussies this century, off the top of their heads?

Still, hopefully they can put in a special performance on a big occasion, and that can keep us believing for another decade or two.

We were playing the lebanon though and they held us to a try apiece in that 2nd half.

And heightington isn't English