Didn't hear many saying that on the 26th August, despite many referres and ex players saying so.

Funny how we latch onto the disciplinary/what ex pros and refs and pundits have to say when it suits us.

The disciplinary doesn't charge Watts and it's the correct decision and proves that the red card was silly but when its a player playing for another team who gets the same it would be that they have no bottle (see the ridiciculous notion that he only wasn't banned so that they didn't have to ban Sean O'Loughlin...who has been banned before).

You can't possibly say that going down to 12 men cost you the game. It didn't against Cas. I've seen countless teams win with a player down.

.... if it's any consolation, I didn't think Clubb scored a try, it was a loose carry and he lost the ball.

In open play it would have been a knock on, and never mentioned again.

Neither did I, I bring it up as an example of how suddenly, all these ex-pros/refs/pundits saying Watts shouldn't have been sent off are correct but they weren't when they were all (including Lee Radford) saying it should have been given.

its all ifs and buts ,wigan should never have been in a position to score their last try at Wembley,should have been a drop out,instead of a 20m tap.you lost the main event .get over it.

They were wrong, simple.

Slightly more concerning to me about that game was that it was niggly all the way through and resulted in at least 3 "handbags" incidents and at least 3 warnings to the captains, and NO further action for any of it.

Are they implying that everything was OK?

Our great game is in danger of being irreversibly damaged by referees. Whilst referees should be given respect both on and off the field for the difficult job they have in making the right decisions, their officiating is in danger of losing the professional edge and making the game a mockery for players and public alike. Too many prima-donna refs - both past and present - are lording it, both on and off the pitch, and spoiling the game. Accountability comes first. Get it sorted RFL. FC & Proud

Obviously not as stupid as you. flanders flings his arm back into connor's face resulting in him needing to leave the field for a head test. If it had happened to tomkins he'd still be rolling around on the KC pitch

I reckon ex-pros/refs views on foul play are worth listening to, but try/no try - they're like everyone else, simply giving an opinion like you or me.

Yet the only thing deemed not good by the panel is the first hit on Sneyd that they say could/should have been a penalty. I don't think the officials even saw it