Dally wrote:Why? To me he will go up in people's estimation for being clear as to his belies and principles irrespective of whether or not they agree with him. The baying illiberal neo-fascist, 'liberal, mob will call for him go but fair-minded people will accept him.
"Fair minded"
What part of Rees-Mogg is fair minded ? I'll accept privileged but, fair minded ( fair, just, even-handed, equitable, egalitarian, impartial, non-partisan, non-discriminatory, unbiased, unprejudiced, open-minded, objective, dispassionate, unselfish,)
His views go against just about all of those definitions but, carry on, knock yourself out.
Backwoodsman wrote:Likewise they love all that left wing momentum stuff in the guardian. If people did not like Rees-Mogg they would not vote for him. That's democracy, may not be the best system but it's still far superior to any other system.
Well is it the best or isn't it?!
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What part of Rees-Mogg is fair minded ? I'll accept privileged but, fair minded ( fair, just, even-handed, equitable, egalitarian, impartial, non-partisan, non-discriminatory, unbiased, unprejudiced, open-minded, objective, dispassionate, unselfish,)
His views go against just about all of those definitions but, carry on, knock yourself out.
I did not express an opinion on whether or not Mr Rees-Mogg is fair-minded or not as I do not personally know him. What I said was that fair-minded people would accept that he should be able to hold his own beliefs and express them without hysterical people saying he should not.
I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.
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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Actually these views should endear him to the left, after all they align almost perfectly with that 'religion of peace' they're always telling us we must welcome into British society with open and tolerant arms.
Sheldon wrote:I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.
My thoughts exactly - power to his elbow; let them elect him as leader, and make the Tories irrelevant for the next ten years.
The man is a walking anachronism, with the faint air of a PG Wodehouse character; smug, sneering, privileged and with not the faintest understanding of, or respect for, ordinary people. And to the OP who claims, rather hopefully, that fair minded people will respect his offensive views - no, they actually won't.
I think he has more in common with national action than the left.
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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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He's entitled to his views. I don't think anyone has said he isn't. The fact that his views on abortion have more in common with those of the mullahs of the Taliban than the majority of people in this country show him to be out of touch. It shows a lack of empathy, compassion and pragmatism that would preclude him from being in high office.
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Sheldon wrote:I've no problem with JRM becoming Tory leader, he's that far away from the vast majority of the uk it should give Corbyn a landslide win.
He'll be very popular with the oldest voters and he's become a cult figure among sections of the young. Be careful what you wish for.
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