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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:12 pm 
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We're due another flash of brilliance from Kelly for this match :D

I'm hoping Watts will have a massive game too. He could play his way into the England squad on Friday night which is additional motivation for him

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rodney_trotter wrote:We're due another flash of brilliance from Kelly for this match :D

I'm hoping Watts will have a massive game too. He could play his way into the England squad on Friday night which is additional motivation for him


Watts is as good if not better than most of the England props and in form.Unfortuneatley his face doesnt fit for this current coach.
The quicker we get Powell into this role the better.

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bonaire wrote:Griffin to wing.Talanoa wont play
Looks like we will have to play Thompson at centre again
Masi looks likely for the bench with Bowden,Fash and Downs should get the nod over Turgut.


I know Turgut wasn't great against Hudds, but he should be ahead of Downs (who I'm not sure is big enough)

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Dave K. wrote:I know Turgut wasn't great against Hudds, but he should be ahead of Downs (who I'm not sure is big enough)


I agree about Downs but Turgut has done little in the first team when selected and his last outing at Leeds he gave away too many penalties and missed tackles.
I think he will deservedly lose his place.I had great hopes for Turgut but it has been mentioned on here that he will probably end up as a Championship player.

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.... according to the leeds match stats, there are other players who would get dropped before Turgut.
4 missed more tackles than he did.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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jury out on turgut, hasn't kicked on as I hoped, but still time, has all the tools to be a decent second rower, downs and fash imo just not big enough, I like fash as he always gives it all, but shame he isn't bigger as never bends the line,






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Dave K. wrote:I know Turgut wasn't great against Hudds, but he should be ahead of Downs (who I'm not sure is big enough)


Agree on this and let's be honest there weren't many senior players that covered themselves in glory against Huddersfield either.

I do think the problem with Turgut is he seems to be trying too hard rather than just going out and playing. Think that showed against Huddersfield with his passing as he seemed to be almost panicking to pass. The kid has ability and has tried to make his mark in what is really his first real regular stint at this level.

Take Bowden and Green as two perfect examples when they first got a chance neither were startling having fair and awful games along the way. Many wanted shot of Green but he has now started to show he can be a regular in the 17. Bowden again very similar though showed more than Green early in his career but has really come on in the last 2-3 seasons and one of the most improved players. Turgut is no different and will be better fir the learning curve and experience this season.

Would have Turgut in the 17 ahead of Downs as based on what I've seen of them both.






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bonaire wrote:Watts is as good if not better than most of the England props and in form.Unfortuneatley his face doesnt fit for this current coach.
The quicker we get Powell into this role the better.



As an opposition fan I couldn't agree more. After Chris Hill (in general rather then this seasons form) and maybe Adam Cuthbertson, I rate Watts as one of the best in the league. He would be in my England 17 along with Graham, Hill and Sam Burgess. We know Wayne Bennett will pick a team based on as many NRL based players as he can fit in though and then fill in the gaps (grudgingly) with Superleague players.

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Apparently Watts won't be fit in time for Friday. Huge miss if true

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ccs wrote:.... according to the leeds match stats, there are other players who would get dropped before Turgut.
4 missed more tackles than he did.


It was the penalties that killed us especially at 12/12 when his penalty in our 20 led to Leeds third try.
As i have said i had great hopes for Turgut as a running second row with a bit of pace but dont see any improvement in his play unlike Masi
who hasnt played too many games but every time he plays you can see improvement.
I agree with other posters about Downs and Fash.Fash works his socks off but doesnt impact a defence and his size will probably determine whether he becomes a Super League regular or not.

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