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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:56 am 
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Cummings is a perfect example of the inconsistency endemic in refereeing.

I seem to recall a match where a Hull prop (Taylor?) caught an opposition player round the head as he was bringing the ball out his is own 20, the player clearly slipped and it would have been impossible for the Hull play to adjust. Cummings went off on the 'tackling player has a duty of care to the opposition player.., any contact with the head, deliberate or otherwise..., etc., etc. and defended the referee for either sin binning or red carding the Hull player. Watch another match and Cummings excuses a player for what ended up a pretty atrocious tackle because he made first contact with the shoulder and then ended up round the head.

If the former Match Officials Director can't provide a consistent line sat in a commentary box under no pressure with the benefit of God knows how many replays then that shows what a problem we have.

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simon_tem wrote:Cummings is a perfect example of the inconsistency endemic in refereeing.

I seem to recall a match where a Hull prop (Taylor?) caught an opposition player round the head as he was bringing the ball out his is own 20, the player clearly slipped and it would have been impossible for the Hull play to adjust. Cummings went off on the 'tackling player has a duty of care to the opposition player.., any contact with the head, deliberate or otherwise..., etc., etc. and defended the referee for either sin binning or red carding the Hull player. Watch another match and Cummings excuses a player for what ended up a pretty atrocious tackle because he made first contact with the shoulder and then ended up round the head.

If the former Match Officials Director can't provide a consistent line sat in a commentary box under no pressure with the benefit of God knows how many replays then that shows what a problem we have.


He gave himself big time on Thursday,The 1st Leeds try were there a possibility the ball came off Watkins onto Briscoe was immediately dismissed by him despite there looking to be some contact,from then on in every comment he made portrayed negativity our way. He's by far the worse on sky. I can live with the others who usually seem to counter each other to give at least some balance. We're in among them and they don't like it :lol:






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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:21 am 
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Squad announced - Ellis, Michaels, Carlos and Green out. Masi, Watts, Minichiello and Griffin back

1. Jamie Shaul
2. Mahe Fonua
4. Josh Griffin
5. Fetuli Talanoa
6. Albert Kelly
7. Marc Sneyd
8. Scott Taylor
9. Danny Houghton
10. Liam Watts
12. Mark Minichiello

14. Jake Connor
16. Jordan Thompson
17. Danny Washbrook
21. Sika Manu
22. Josh Bowden
25. Jansin Turgut
27. Jack Downs
28. Brad Fash
29. Masi Matongo

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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:16 pm 
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Shocked to see Tali in there, hope we aren't risking him if not fit






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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:18 pm 
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Cummings hates Hull simple.






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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:17 pm 
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simon_tem wrote:Cummings is a perfect example of the inconsistency endemic in refereeing.

I seem to recall a match where a Hull prop (Taylor?) caught an opposition player round the head as he was bringing the ball out his is own 20, the player clearly slipped and it would have been impossible for the Hull play to adjust. Cummings went off on the 'tackling player has a duty of care to the opposition player.., any contact with the head, deliberate or otherwise..., etc., etc. and defended the referee for either sin binning or red carding the Hull player. Watch another match and Cummings excuses a player for what ended up a pretty atrocious tackle because he made first contact with the shoulder and then ended up round the head.

If the former Match Officials Director can't provide a consistent line sat in a commentary box under no pressure with the benefit of God knows how many replays then that shows what a problem we have.


He gave himself big time on Thursday,The 1st Leeds try were there a possibility the ball came off Watkins onto Briscoe was immediately dismissed by him despite there looking to be some contact,from then on in every comment he made portrayed negativity our way. He's by far the worse on sky. I can live with the others who usually seem to counter each other to give at least some balance. We're in among them and they don't like it :lol:


Think Cummings just shows what a closed shop the RFL have created in terms of the officials as they are unaccountable. Cummings even with the benefit of replays still backs the refs 99% of the time even when its clear they've made an incorrect/poor decision and then goes on to defend them. The refs are not perfect and being human will make mistakes but its the inconsistency in the officiating between not only each ref but the same ref in the same game. Then the inconsistency of the disciplinary panel and the grades and bans dished out.

Cummings for me was always an arrogant official and for me was not the right guy for the head of officials due to his arrogance and lack of admission when making mistakes, this has been compounded by the appointment of Ganson. The RFL need to address the standard of officiating and use some of the money to bring over a respected official from Australia.






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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:20 pm 
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Karen wrote:Shocked to see Tali in there, hope we aren't risking him if not fit


Can't see Tuli playing to be honest, lets face it the initial squads named mean nothing as he was named a few times along with Ellis when they were not even close to fitness.






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Chris71 wrote:Can't see Tuli playing to be honest, lets face it the initial squads named mean nothing as he was named a few times along with Ellis when they were not even close to fitness.

True, and we don't tend to risk players






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 Post subject: Re: Wigan next - Tasty match
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Karen wrote:Shocked to see Tali in there, hope we aren't risking him if not fit


He wont play
Its Radfords way of keeping Wigan guessing.Dont see the point

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Wilde 3 wrote:Squad announced - Ellis, Michaels, Carlos and Green out. Masi, Watts, Minichiello and Griffin back

1. Jamie Shaul
2. Mahe Fonua
4. Josh Griffin
5. Fetuli Talanoa
6. Albert Kelly
7. Marc Sneyd
8. Scott Taylor
9. Danny Houghton
10. Liam Watts
12. Mark Minichiello

14. Jake Connor
16. Jordan Thompson
17. Danny Washbrook
21. Sika Manu
22. Josh Bowden
25. Jansin Turgut
27. Jack Downs
28. Brad Fash
29. Masi Matongo



Griffin to wing.Talanoa wont play
Looks like we will have to play Thompson at centre again
Masi looks likely for the bench with Bowden,Fash and Downs should get the nod over Turgut.

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