It's the losses to Leigh and Catalans that will be to blame if we miss out. Personally not bothered after the cup success but the players will be. Still in with a shout mind.

Still in our hands so don't back against them. Big games bring out the best in us!

If you beat Wigan this week and Wakefield beat Saints, then saint's will be unable to make the top 4. If Castleford then beat Wigan in rd29 then both Hull and Wakefield finish in the top 4 regardless of the result between Hull and Wakefield

You said it sounds daft. You are right. Fair play for airing your opinion, but I have to challenge you on a few thing.

You say Leeds and Salford near 60. This is not just an exaggeration, it's just a lie.

You say your pass has not been value for money? Not sure what your barometer is for this. Is it quality of play, closeness of results ? Or would I be right in thinking you are only happy if Hull win by a clear 20 point?

You mention us surrendering a big lead at Warrington but conveniently do not mention the 22 point deficit we over came at Widnes.

You then round it off by not mentioning Cas as the stand out team of this season.

You mention the word tripe on your post. A good description of the majority of that post to be fair.

After years of false dawns, false promises, poor coaches, underperforming players, we are not just appearing in finals but winning them and still have a play off spot in our own hand. If that's a tripe return for your money, you need to have a word with yourself.

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Thirded

fourthied by a happy clapper

Warrington won 3 cup finals in a short span but are still considered underacheivers and are now in the middle 8s.
Not for a second suggesting that will happen to us but iF we don't win the GF either this year or next are the cup wins enough?
Having had a barren spell, lots of all the above negatives, our level of expectation though raised is still relatively low. We aren't Wigan nor Leeds whose fans almost expect to be at the sharp end very good reason too.
just getting the Wembley monkey off our backs but retaining the cup is seen as a huge success and comparatively in the last 30 years it is.
Laat season we were talking about 'kickin on' bexause despite the wembley win there was a lwvel of dissapoinment at how the season ended. It was probably our best chance of the clean sweep.
So kicking on means more than just a cc win, our actual expectations are a bit confused tempered by history but still feeling dissapoinment of not fulfilling potential.
Our performances this season have gone from the sublime to the ridiculously awful, a point Lee Radford made as something he wanted to avoid. That inconsistency has being prevalent all season, one hopes we can indeed kick on in this last leg.
Not making the 4 would leave a bit of a bitter aftertaste, just as wilting last season did.
I'm up for the Wigan game and I think the outcome of the match could well define what happens thereafter.
Can't wait as it's a massive game but also nervous.

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