Wilde 3 wrote:As long as the players don't go on a 4 day bender again after winning the Cup (fingers crossed), then we should have enough depth/rotation within the squad to put a side out against Leeds that can do the job.
I would personally rest the lot of them against Leeds regardless of the result at Wembley. Make sure we are ready to go the week after. Top 2 isn't all that important in my book.
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:I would personally rest the lot of them against Leeds regardless of the result at Wembley. Make sure we are ready to go the week after. Top 2 isn't all that important in my book.
Assuming that the 17 for Wembley are as follows:
Shaul Fonua Griffin Tuimavave Talanoa Kelly Sneyd Watts Houghton Taylor Minichiello Manu Ellis
Bowden Washbrook Connor Green
Then, from what I can see, only the following players would be available v Leeds who hadn't played at Wembley and aren't out on loan at other clubs:
Unless we are going to draft in a large amount of our players from COHA then I'd imagine the likes of Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton, Ellis, Taylor and Manu will be rested, and everyone else will back up against Leeds.
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Chris71 wrote: I see no reason why the cup will be a distraction like it was previously. Other clubs over the years have managed to win the Cup and still make the GF and win it.
According to this only 9 clubs have won "the double", including Swinton and Broughton Rangers. It's a massive ask IMO. Look how dominant Bradford Bulls were for years and they only managed it once. Of course being in both competitions makes it harder - you have to spread your energy and effort as well as being mentally resilient. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dou ... gby_league)
Chris71 wrote: I see no reason why the cup will be a distraction like it was previously. Other clubs over the years have managed to win the Cup and still make the GF and win it.
According to this only 9 clubs have won "the double", including Swinton and Broughton Rangers. It's a massive ask IMO. Look how dominant Bradford Bulls were for years and they only managed it once. Of course being in both competitions makes it harder - you have to spread your energy and effort as well as being mentally resilient. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dou ... gby_league)
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Mrs Barista wrote:According to this only 9 clubs have won "the double", including Swinton and Broughton Rangers. It's a massive ask IMO. Look how dominant Bradford Bulls were for years and they only managed it once. Of course being in both competitions makes it harder - you have to spread your energy and effort as well as being mentally resilient. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dou ... gby_league)
I don't disagree with the fact it will be harder but I do believe the fall off we saw last season will not be repeated as that was a totally different situation. Plus I do strongly believe that this group have at times this season played within themselves on top of that last year very few players missed any games. This season through suspension and various injuries a number of players have missed games again which didnt happen last season.
Mrs Barista wrote:According to this only 9 clubs have won "the double", including Swinton and Broughton Rangers. It's a massive ask IMO. Look how dominant Bradford Bulls were for years and they only managed it once. Of course being in both competitions makes it harder - you have to spread your energy and effort as well as being mentally resilient. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dou ... gby_league)
I don't disagree with the fact it will be harder but I do believe the fall off we saw last season will not be repeated as that was a totally different situation. Plus I do strongly believe that this group have at times this season played within themselves on top of that last year very few players missed any games. This season through suspension and various injuries a number of players have missed games again which didnt happen last season.
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Chris71 wrote:I don't disagree with the fact it will be harder but I do believe the fall off we saw last season will not be repeated as that was a totally different situation. Plus I do strongly believe that this group have at times this season played within themselves on top of that last year very few players missed any games. This season through suspension and various injuries a number of players have missed games again which didnt happen last season.
In the league though Castleford have been way out in front and benefit from 2 free weekends, whereas last year it ended up effectively being us, Warrington who made both finals and Wigan who this year will likely be laser-focussed on the cup. I think Cas in the league and Wigan in the cup are individually much bigger barriers to each trophy than we faced last year where our opponents were similarly spread on both competition fronts.
Unless we are going to draft in a large amount of our players from COHA then I'd imagine the likes of Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton, Ellis, Taylor and Manu will be rested, and everyone else will back up against Leeds.
You've taken me very literally there. But I would be looking to rest as many as possible. Hadley and Abdull are unlikely to come back, there's no real reason why the others couldn't be drafted in, and yes I hope a few CoHA players get a run as well. If Leeds put 70 on us who really cares?
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We need to put everything into tonight's game as a win would give us a 4 point cushion over Saints, 3 over Wakey and 3 over Salford (if Cas beat them). The time to make changes will be next week against Huddersfield, when we will have that bit of breathing space.
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:You've taken me very literally there. But I would be looking to rest as many as possible. Hadley and Abdull are unlikely to come back, there's no real reason why the others couldn't be drafted in, and yes I hope a few CoHA players get a run as well. If Leeds put 70 on us who really cares?
Wasn't the intention - when I started the post I hadn't realised how many loaned out players we have, genuinely thought we actually could have fielded a semi-decent squad with all 17 rested. At full strength in the semis I'd fancy us home or away against anyone, so the Leeds game will be largely irrelevant as long as we finish in the top 4.
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