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 Post subject: Re: Tom Briscoe
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:21 pm 
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RHINO-MARK wrote:This is a fair point tbh what i will say is why continually pick Briscoe if his shoulders aren't ok or more importantly imo when his confidence issues have been there so long?
We do have options squad wise even if we dont pick Handley ,Keinhorst is comfortable on the Wing or Golding is an option with Moon back at Centre & Lilley in the halves.


Are his shoulders gone? I mean genuinely not just a rumour read on the internet?

Keinhorst only just returned, Moon for all the is he a HB talk has performed well and if he moved him back to centre McDermott would have gotten stick for that call. Handley didn't take his chances and it's understandable why you wouldn't pick Walker and Golding as a winger isn't a gimme that he'll work there. Very easily we could pick him there next week and have threads saying "Golding will never make a winger". Thing is if you offered him a new starting singer for next season he probably would snap your hand off for it, but he's not the one to make that happen.

It's Sutcliffe's fit next week we could go

FB - Golding
W - Watkins
C - Sutcliffe
C - Keinhorst
W - Hall

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 Post subject: Re: Tom Briscoe
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:24 pm 
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why move the comps best centre?

walker

hall
Watkins
moon/Sutcliffe
keinhorst

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tad rhino wrote:why move the comps best centre?

walker

hall
Watkins
moon/Sutcliffe
keinhorst


Because every week it's "if" he gets good ball. And nearly every week people are left disappointed so why keep him there on the off chance he gets good ball? If we get good ball to the centre position then Sutcliffe looks more than usual at centre and he'd have a winger outside who could produce rather than a shot Briscoe or Golding is unproven as a winger? Also Watkins defends the right edge every week so defensively better than putting a FB there and what McDernitt likes is our wingers do carries and make metres early in set.....Watkins will do that better than Golding.

So all that added together is better than hoping he gets good ball with a underperforming or unproven winger outside him.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:46 pm 
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I understand your reasoning but it's not for me.
moon to centre, Lilly in and Jimmy to wing is how I'd go

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tad rhino wrote:I understand your reasoning but it's not for me.
moon to centre, Lilly in and Jimmy to wing is how I'd go


Keinhorst would just be filling a shirt though. He's a centre that can play 2nd row, not a centre who can play wing. Had he got the pace or mobility for wing? What's his catching like? I'd suggest Watkins is better at those things.

The way we like to play the winger is more important than centre tbh. Watkins staying at centre isn't imperative especially if you're moving a guy there in Sutcliffe who can be pretty dangerous himself.

At HB Lilley and McGuire at HB doesn't offer enough running threat. Moon with either one of them is ok, both together no.

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tad rhino wrote:his replacement is a world class young winger 20 miles away at wakefield. sadly, and this is where I have sympathy with brian, GH prefers to shop at aldi rather than waitrose. expect a cheap signing

Briscoe wont have been cheap.






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SmokeyTA wrote:Briscoe wont have been cheap.


Yes for all the criticism and how things have panned out since signing Briscoe to replace BJB was an improvement on paper and taking a more expensive and again on paper better option.

Briscoe is one of the few if only examples in the last few years of GH signing a player who will have been more expensive and better at the time to improve a position.

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Ferres is the another one. Neither has really worked out.






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SmokeyTA wrote:Ferres is the another one. Neither has really worked out.


Briscoe worked fine until the 2016 season. He was scoring crucial tries in semi finals, five tries at Wembley and setting up tries in a Grand Final






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SmokeyTA wrote:Ferres is the another one. Neither has really worked out.


Ferres hasn't worked out but most senior players looked poor last year. This year he hadn't had a run of games to get any form going to be fair to him.

It's been long layoff - couple of games - long suspension - couple of games - knee injury - first game back which all forwards struggled in.

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