Blimey ... I'm not certain what you mean by this can you explain a bit more.

We can't say that teams like Cas have left us in their dust with their style of play. It's not that long ago that we were the ones playing that fast unpredictable rugby and ripping sides apart for fun. I guess that's what makes the current quagmire (giggity) so depressing.

[quote="Smiffy27"]No one at the start of the season saw this coming./quote]

Correction. I saw this coming FOUR years ago, particularly in 2015,and have repeated it, many times since.

"cry baby" I may be, but you can add to this, realist, observant and (possibly) prophet

I have to agree with Lefty. I wanted to believe that 2014 was our rebuilding season. Then I thought 2015 was a blip. 2016 was good for us but I didnt think we looked convincing as the rest of the league was pretty bad... we certainly hadn't developed since 2012. I just bought into the sentimentality of what Smith did for us 2009-2012, which BTW I'm really thankful for.

Now the reality is biting... Lefty is like those four guys who saw the global financial crisis coming but the rest of us sat there idolising the fat cats.

[quote="lefty goldblatt"]

Sorry "lefty" I'd forgot about you.
Correction: The whole of the rugby league world apart from "lefty" couldn't see this coming.
I do hope no one accuses you of being clever in hindsight.

Not hindsight. It's been evident for years

Poor recruitment and crap Rugby. A recipe for disaster.

We were great at offloading ... then Wigan played the same (very effective) back door moves but Cas have moved the idea of dummy runners into a different level especially going left. They were superb last year with Gale, Luke Dorn & Solomona. Now Gale has got Shenton with Hardaker & Eden.
This rugby is special. Salford & Wakefield have been quick to latch on. I don't think we have the skill (with our current players) to play this way.

We are averaging scorelines in defeat of 40 points to 8. Is there going to be some sort of response from the board, if only a press statement reassuring the fans that the problems are acknowledged at the highest level? Leeds did this last year, even though McDermott had won the treble only the year before to add to a long list of honours.

Earlier in the season it was embarrassing to be a Warrington fan. Now it's absolutely petrifying. I felt more confident of staying up at this stage of the 2002 season.

Someone else mentioned it, but I'd bring Paul Cullen back... Sounds mad but I really would.. Put him and Briers in charge.

Let's bring back the drinking culture