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tigertot wrote:I think Backwardsman is talking about deporting people for thoughts.
I think it's a little more than thoughts. But never mind let's carry on as we are. We will light more candles, have more one minutes silence and lots of they will never beat us bleatings.
Backwoodsman wrote:I think it's a little more than thoughts. But never mind let's carry on as we are. We will light more candles, have more one minutes silence and lots of they will never beat us bleatings.
Or maybe we could rebuild the decimated police force, stop bombing people into oblivion, cease our support for the terrorist sponsoring Saudi regime, and avoid the knee jerk reaction of removing our civil liberties and going all North Korea on the internet?
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Sal Paradise wrote:By increasing their benefits - welfare spending in the last 10 years of the Labour government increased by 45% in real terms - housing benefit alone increased by 9bn during this time. These are facts.
Of course it did. As the chickens of thatchers right to buy scheme came home to roost. Private landlords started increasing rents as social housing became increasingly scarce. More should have been done to cap that admittedly. But that money didnt benefit claimants, merely the landlords.
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Backwardsman wrote:I think it's a little more than thoughts. But never mind let's carry on as we are. We will light more candles, have more one minutes silence and lots of they will never beat us bleatings.
What is it then if it is more than thoughts? Do you think terrorists wake up & think "I know, I'll kill a few people for no particular reason"?
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bren2k wrote:Or maybe we could rebuild the decimated police force, stop bombing people into oblivion, cease our support for the terrorist sponsoring Saudi regime, and avoid the knee jerk reaction of removing our civil liberties and going all North Korea on the internet?
To coin a phrase, there is often a third way.
Civil liberties works both ways , it would be rather helpful if certain people refrained from stabbing and blowing us up. The human rights act has been abused by people to prevent deportation , usually claiming the country of origin uses torture. This therectically prevents deportation, as does anybody claiming to be gay, as most Muslim countries aren't quite onboard with gay rights. Incidentally the left wing freedom rights legal lawyers have made a fortune from legal aid. Abu quatadas case took approximately 9 years. I note the left wing brigades latest trend is picking fault with Saudi. If us stopping arms sales to Saudi would make a difference, excellent. Unfortunately France and Germany would quite happily step in and sell them French and German arms. Incidentally if we are proposing to adopt the moral high ground, should we be exporting to china and Russia. Both countries not noted for high standards of human rights. Coincidently gay right does not seem to be in vogue in both of these countries . You mention a third way ,hopefully that means waving good bye to anybody who does not care for our laws and systems of government.
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Backwoodsman wrote:You mention a third way ,hopefully that means waving good bye to anybody who does not care for our laws and systems of government.
When the Greens take power after today & you do not care for their laws & systems of government will be able to wave goodbye to you? Or does it just apply to darkies?
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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tigertot wrote:When the Greens take power after today & you do not care for their laws & systems of government will be able to wave goodbye to you? Or does it just apply to darkies?
Good grief you are really off the pace on this one. In the highly unlikely event of the greens winning power, they will be subject to reelection after a term in office.If they don't perform in government then they will be voted out. Our system of government whilst not perfect has served this country well for a great length of time. Also our system of law based on Magna Carta which has been copied throughout the world. Regretfully you have made yourself look extremely foolish with your darkies comment.
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Backwoodsman wrote:Good grief you are really off the pace on this one. In the highly unlikely event of the greens winning power, they will be subject to reelection after a term in office.If they don't perform in government then they will be voted out. Our system of government whilst not perfect has served this country well for a great length of time. Also our system of law based on Magna Carta which has been copied throughout the world. Regretfully you have made yourself look extremely foolish with your darkies comment.
You have not answered the question. There are laws I do not care for in this country. I do not support first past the post either. Therefore I fit your description. Explain who your policy, presumably designed to keep us safe, applies to.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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