FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Recruitment and retention



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 579 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 ... 58  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:03 am 
Club Captain
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2017
Posts: 1538
Hadley extends his stay with Trinity for another month






Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:50 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25971
Location: Back in Hull.
Sheldon wrote:Who's a world class winger? I can only think of 1.

Even players like Blake Ferguson aren't what you'd class as world class.

Powerful wingers who can clear their lines, break tackles, take bombs and finish when given the chance.


OK SL world class, you just have to look at Cas to see you don't need to spend big on wingers if the rest of the team are good players.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:44 pm 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Mar 26 2006
Posts: 22320
Location: York
Dave K. wrote:OK SL world class, you just have to look at Cas to see you don't need to spend big on wingers if the rest of the team are good players.


I agree Dave, I like the look of Rawsthorne tbh.






Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
Regards,
 
Matthew

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:21 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Jul 05 2006
Posts: 8629
Sheldon wrote:I agree Dave, I like the look of Rawsthorne tbh.


Me too, very raw but just his ability in the air, footwork to avoid the big hit, his goal kicking and his pace all are great qualities

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:55 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: May 12 2011
Posts: 3338
Location: West Hull
Wilde 3 wrote:Me too, very raw but just his ability in the air, footwork to avoid the big hit, his goal kicking and his pace all are great qualities

big lad as well, wanna see him bust through and break away!






All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason.
-Emmitt Smith

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:31 pm 
International Chairman
Jake the Peg wrote:And millington

We've had some major disruption with injuries this season though with 5+ first 17 players out pretty much every game for the last couple of months but even at full strength we're probably looking at a bench of green, bowden, washbrook and connor/thompson which lacks a bit of impact for me.

On faster summer pitches when the injuries start stacking up wouldn't you want players that are more mobile, able to do more minutes/better endurance, get to the tackle quicker, be able to back a break?
This is why I don't think Pritchard was that effective, we already had the advantage of the best pack in SL and most of all not being injured so whilst pritchard did offer some impact in games it was for an all too short a period of time and he really didn't have much more 'impact' than the likes of Thompson who he was only just ahead of in tackle busts yet made massively fewer tackles than Thompson did.
A bench of Green, Bowden, Fash and Hadley IF we retain him and he isn't in the starting XIII which I hope we do is one that i would be happy with.
it's just that fans seem to think they have to be a big bustling runner in the mould of a Jamie Thackery or South Sea islander to be an impact player, I think impact is being viewed in much too narrow a way.

Naughton I can't see being kept, Lancaster has gone, I'm not sure we will keep Talanoa either.
So LR will have to decide if we find a replacment winger or decide if he keeps Talanoa or Michaels services for another year, both are much cheaper than Fonua, both are known quantities each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I prefer Michaels myself as he is pretty reliable, can cover centre or wing on either side and is defensively much better than Talanoa.
That means we have Rawesthorne on the left and Michaels on the right as an example.
Not forking out for a top winger would enable us to have either JA or Hadley back but I'm not sure if either will be coming back for 2018.
Then we have Ellis's money, some of that is already down for kelly's extension/upgrade which will be significant.
I don't think that would leave us a big amount in the pot for a top player even with the increase in salary cap IF we were actually going to play Hadley next year. never mind Hadley and JA.
ATM the big problem we have is Griffin, he's going to be on a decent wedge and he's not firing on all cyclinders and well short of expectations, we're stuck with him until end of 2019 so he really needs to crack on and prove his worth or he is wasted cap and a fair chunk of it too.

I also think LR sees Washbrook and Hadley very alike in what they offer, whilst Washbrook has done well when taking more responsibility I think Hadley is a slight upgrade on him. However taking Hadley back and keeping Washbrook too effectively pushes Jez litten to fourth choice dummy half and Radford's preference is to use a running second rower such as washbrook/Hadley type as a stand in and both have experience in that role, Hadley particularly at wakey is used that way.
It's a big conundrum for sure as to how LR sees things and how he wants us to go next year, sign a big 'impact' player that costs a lot or go with a ball playing 13 and more than adept forward who can cover the back row forwards positions and dummy half.
So
1. We release/leave on long term loan Hadley and JA and sign another forward (don't see the point personally because we aren't going to have big bucks left for a big name anyway)
2. On top of above re JA and Hadley we release michaels or Talanoa (or even both) and sign a bigger named/better standard 'impact' forward and a winger in the style of Fonua but a no name (not sure that's feasible money wise anyway)

3. We retain both Hadley and JA for next season, release Talanoa or Michaels, sign an unknown winger and the 'impact' forward is a non starter and we rely on our own lads to make the impact, just not in a smash bang wallop kind of way.
Can't see it being more than 2 signings either way, I'd prefer to play JA and Hadley next year, keep Michaels, release Talanoa.

Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:29 am 
Club Owner
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 4417
Location: Posh Bransholme
Think Talanoa already signed for next season.






Always the Optimist never the Pessimist. Glass Half full not half empty man me.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:40 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Jul 15 2005
Posts: 29811
Location: West Yorkshire
Ellam wrote:Think Talanoa already signed for next season.

Hope so. Very important player for us.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:57 am 
International Board Member
Club Captain

Joined: Feb 21 2003
Posts: 3460
Location: West Hull
Mrs Barista wrote:Hope so. Very important player for us.


Saturday proved that.

Got us on the front foot.

Fonua will be the same when he returns.






Challenge Cup Winners 2016 (at Wembley) - HULL FC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Recruitment and retention
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:51 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Feb 19 2009
Posts: 1957
Location: East stand!
knockersbumpMKII wrote:On faster summer pitches when the injuries start stacking up wouldn't you want players that are more mobile, able to do more minutes/better endurance, get to the tackle quicker, be able to back a break?
This is why I don't think Pritchard was that effective, we already had the advantage of the best pack in SL and most of all not being injured so whilst pritchard did offer some impact in games it was for an all too short a period of time and he really didn't have much more 'impact' than the likes of Thompson who he was only just ahead of in tackle busts yet made massively fewer tackles than Thompson did.
A bench of Green, Bowden, Fash and Hadley IF we retain him and he isn't in the starting XIII which I hope we do is one that i would be happy with.
it's just that fans seem to think they have to be a big bustling runner in the mould of a Jamie Thackery or South Sea islander to be an impact player, I think impact is being viewed in much too narrow a way.

Naughton I can't see being kept, Lancaster has gone, I'm not sure we will keep Talanoa either.
So LR will have to decide if we find a replacment winger or decide if he keeps Talanoa or Michaels services for another year, both are much cheaper than Fonua, both are known quantities each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I prefer Michaels myself as he is pretty reliable, can cover centre or wing on either side and is defensively much better than Talanoa.
That means we have Rawesthorne on the left and Michaels on the right as an example.
Not forking out for a top winger would enable us to have either JA or Hadley back but I'm not sure if either will be coming back for 2018.
Then we have Ellis's money, some of that is already down for kelly's extension/upgrade which will be significant.
I don't think that would leave us a big amount in the pot for a top player even with the increase in salary cap IF we were actually going to play Hadley next year. never mind Hadley and JA.
ATM the big problem we have is Griffin, he's going to be on a decent wedge and he's not firing on all cyclinders and well short of expectations, we're stuck with him until end of 2019 so he really needs to crack on and prove his worth or he is wasted cap and a fair chunk of it too.

I also think LR sees Washbrook and Hadley very alike in what they offer, whilst Washbrook has done well when taking more responsibility I think Hadley is a slight upgrade on him. However taking Hadley back and keeping Washbrook too effectively pushes Jez litten to fourth choice dummy half and Radford's preference is to use a running second rower such as washbrook/Hadley type as a stand in and both have experience in that role, Hadley particularly at wakey is used that way.
It's a big conundrum for sure as to how LR sees things and how he wants us to go next year, sign a big 'impact' player that costs a lot or go with a ball playing 13 and more than adept forward who can cover the back row forwards positions and dummy half.
So
1. We release/leave on long term loan Hadley and JA and sign another forward (don't see the point personally because we aren't going to have big bucks left for a big name anyway)
2. On top of above re JA and Hadley we release michaels or Talanoa (or even both) and sign a bigger named/better standard 'impact' forward and a winger in the style of Fonua but a no name (not sure that's feasible money wise anyway)

3. We retain both Hadley and JA for next season, release Talanoa or Michaels, sign an unknown winger and the 'impact' forward is a non starter and we rely on our own lads to make the impact, just not in a smash bang wallop kind of way.
Can't see it being more than 2 signings either way, I'd prefer to play JA and Hadley next year, keep Michaels, release Talanoa.


If you seriously believe Michaels offers more than Talanoa I'd have to question how many games you've actually seen in recent years. It's not even close. Michaels is a 110% er. Thats it. Not knocking him at all. But there is not aspect of his play I'd rate above Talanoa. You say defensively. Not on the basis of lots of games this year
The difference in impact out of backfield with Talanoa in his 1st game back was enormous. Need to get the right player in to replace Fonua. Because while they've been out its highlighted just how important they were to our successes last year






"never looking back,always looking forward"

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 579 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 ... 58  Next





It is currently Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:47 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ComeOnYouUll, Faithful One, FC Callum, Hasbag, HU8HFC, Jake the Peg, Majestic-12 [Bot], tezmil1, UllFC, Windy winger, Yippee try yay and 256 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:47 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
9m
Film game
karetaker
7587
10m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64821
11m
Rumours and signings v9
jonh
29237
17m
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
taxi4stevesm
18
19m
Redvee Update
just_browny
37
20m
Digital Season ticket
Fujiman
1
27m
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
289
46m
Post Match Music
cieranblonde
6
55m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41647
56m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
5000
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Wire Hatfiel
9
Recent
RL Challenge Cup
Clearwing
82
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3073
Recent
Super League
FIL
120
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
5000
3s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
UllFC
97
4s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64821
4s
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
6s
Rumours thread
poplar cats
2983
9s
Transfer Talk V5
Huddersfield
868
9s
Season launch
Returnwr to
11
10s
Film game
karetaker
7587
10s
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
289
11s
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
15s
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
22
22s
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
28s
Odsal lease up for sale
paulwalker71
235
33s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
taxi4stevesm
18
33s
Barrow at home
Brew
31
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Digital Season ticket
Fujiman
1
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
Wigg'n
16
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
christopher
5
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
cieranblonde
6
TODAY
Scurr
Highlander
19
TODAY
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
22
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
4
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Round 1 - London H
paulwalker71
18
TODAY
Social Media
PopTart
8
TODAY
Super league Or Sky Sports
wrencat1873
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Wire Hatfiel
9
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition RESULTS AND STANDINGS
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Sheffield away
terry silver
5
TODAY
Sound system
BarnsleyGull
7
TODAY
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shock In Defeating the Castleford Tigers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Clash of styles
Pat Bateman
58
TODAY
No I Player
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Bradford v Castleford
Big lads mat
14
TODAY
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
UllFC
97
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
522
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
487
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
533
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
536
Betfred Super League Season Se..
721
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
742
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1395
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1174
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1246
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1423
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1382
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1493
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1883
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2703
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2760
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
CC2025 3 Batley24-4Dewsbury
CC2025 3 Crusaders20-26Widnes
CC2025 3 Oldham42-4Barrow
Sat 8th Feb
CC20253 Goole V0-82Wakefield
CC2025 3 Halifax0-14Catalans
CC2025 3 Whitehaven4-44Warrington
CC2025 3 York A6-52Hull FC
CC2025 3 West Hull0-38St.Helens
CC2025 3 Leeds92-0WEST W
Fri 7th Feb
CC2025 3 Sheffield12-48Wigan
CC2025 3 Workington0-60Leigh
CC2025 3 York2-44Hull KR
Sun 2nd Feb
CC2025 2 Keighley12-72York
1895 0 Midlands52-24Whitehaven
1895 0 Newcastle0-60Crusaders
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
9m
Film game
karetaker
7587
10m
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64821
11m
Rumours and signings v9
jonh
29237
17m
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
taxi4stevesm
18
19m
Redvee Update
just_browny
37
20m
Digital Season ticket
Fujiman
1
27m
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
289
46m
Post Match Music
cieranblonde
6
55m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41647
56m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
5000
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Wire Hatfiel
9
Recent
RL Challenge Cup
Clearwing
82
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3073
Recent
Super League
FIL
120
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
5000
3s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
UllFC
97
4s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
64821
4s
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
6s
Rumours thread
poplar cats
2983
9s
Transfer Talk V5
Huddersfield
868
9s
Season launch
Returnwr to
11
10s
Film game
karetaker
7587
10s
Leeds away first up
Trojan Horse
289
11s
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
15s
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
22
22s
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
28s
Odsal lease up for sale
paulwalker71
235
33s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
taxi4stevesm
18
33s
Barrow at home
Brew
31
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Digital Season ticket
Fujiman
1
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
11
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
LeythIg
6
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
Wigg'n
16
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
christopher
5
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
cieranblonde
6
TODAY
Scurr
Highlander
19
TODAY
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
22
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
4
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Round 1 - London H
paulwalker71
18
TODAY
Social Media
PopTart
8
TODAY
Super league Or Sky Sports
wrencat1873
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Wire Hatfiel
9
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition RESULTS AND STANDINGS
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Sheffield away
terry silver
5
TODAY
Sound system
BarnsleyGull
7
TODAY
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shock In Defeating the Castleford Tigers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Clash of styles
Pat Bateman
58
TODAY
No I Player
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Bradford v Castleford
Big lads mat
14
TODAY
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
UllFC
97
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
522
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
487
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
533
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
536
Betfred Super League Season Se..
721
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
742
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1395
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1174
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1246
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1423
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1382
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1493
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1883
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2703
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2760


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.