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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:51 am 
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Correct Karen it's to do with bonuses and the Cup win, Motu messed up with that bit






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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:52 am 
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altofts wildcat wrote:I think I am right in saying that somebody only counts on a clubs cap if he plays for them. At present Hadley hasnt played for Hull yet this season so has a cap figure of 0 for hull but as soon as he plays for them his full wage if he is in their top 25 earners counts on the cap and by all accounts would take hull over the cap.


If that's the case why not make the loan for the season and not month by month?

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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:17 am 
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Maybe that's on Wakefields terms? Perhaps they didn't want a year long deal, and preferred to do it this way.






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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:20 am 
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Baxendale wrote:If that's the case why not make the loan for the season and not month by month?

Don't profess to know how it all works but could it be that the cap runs annually so any bonus in theory could be "spent" by early September? Just guessing.

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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:57 am 
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Cup bonuses are a separate issue to the cap agreements in place for all clubs to pay bonus for cup win

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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:09 pm 
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rabbits wrote:Cup bonuses are a separate issue to the cap agreements in place for all clubs to pay bonus for cup win


The RFL wrote:5.7 The following items may be excluded in the calculation of the Salary Cap Value of a
Player:

Prize Money

5.7.1 the Gross value of any of the following payments that may Accrue to the Player
during the Salary Cap Year:

(a) any share of the official prize money paid by SLE/the RFL to the Club as
a result of the Club’s performance in the Super League competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted to
the HSCR at the time that the Player’s playing contract is submitted
);

(b) any share of the official prize money paid by the RFL to the Club as a
result of the Club’s performance in the Challenge Cup competition
(provided that full details of such prize money bonuses are submitted to
the HSCR at the time that the Player’s playing contract is submitted)


The highlighted sections are the important bits. They can only be excluded if they're already accounted for. Maybe we didn't account for any win bonuses for obvious reasons?






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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:35 pm 
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Baxendale wrote:If that's the case why not make the loan for the season and not month by month?

Dont know the ins and outs but maybe we dont want to take him for the full year in the event that he picks up a nasty injury which would mean us paying the wages of another teams player who is not playing for us. Might sound selfish from us but I guess we have to look after our own interests.

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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:39 pm 
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Karen wrote:The highlighted sections are the important bits. They can only be excluded if they're already accounted for. Maybe we didn't account for any win bonuses for obvious reasons?



Bonuses was account for beforehand

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 Post subject: Re: Hadley
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:42 am 
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altofts wildcat wrote:Dont know the ins and outs but maybe we dont want to take him for the full year in the event that he picks up a nasty injury which would mean us paying the wages of another teams player who is not playing for us. Might sound selfish from us but I guess we have to look after our own interests.


Makes sense!

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