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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:54 am 
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Dave K. wrote:The only thing I can think of is if he doesn't play and plays for another side (who pay his wages), it doesn't count on your cap?


That's all I can think of too, when did he first go to Wakefield?

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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:02 am 
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Baxendale wrote:Then surely in theory Hadley also counts?

No - he's out on loan.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:50 am 
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Think you have too play to count on the cap I'm sure if you don't play for 6 months you don't count






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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:50 am 
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Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't.
I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?

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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:03 pm 
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Baxendale wrote:Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't.
I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?
No he doesn't....


RFL CAP from a while ago wrote:.
(i) where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of the Loan;
(ii) where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate Liability.
SUPER LEAGUE SALARY CAP REGULATIONS
Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations
For the avoidance of doubt any agreement reached between the Clubs from and to which a Player is loaned as to who pays the Player’s salary (or part thereof) has no relevance to the treatment of the Player in accordance with this Clause.


The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow....

http://www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1
Baxendale wrote:Never an ideal set of rules when there's so much confusion around who counts and who doesn't.
I get that Hadley is out on loan and that's obviously why he doesn't count but he'll be in the top 25 and registered with Hull so theoretically he should count for Hull?
No he doesn't....


RFL CAP from a while ago wrote:.
(i) where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of the Loan;
(ii) where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate Liability.
SUPER LEAGUE SALARY CAP REGULATIONS
Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations
For the avoidance of doubt any agreement reached between the Clubs from and to which a Player is loaned as to who pays the Player’s salary (or part thereof) has no relevance to the treatment of the Player in accordance with this Clause.


The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow....

http://www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:35 pm 
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I thought the cup winners and GF winners got an extra £100k cap allowance for bonuses? Surely bonuses relate to the season in which they were won, not the following one






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 Post subject: Re: Bower
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:44 am 
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ccs wrote:No he doesn't....


The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow....

http://www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1


I'm starting to follow now, my fault for reading that previous quote from you in isolation
ccs wrote:No he doesn't....


The latest cap rules are here, but even more difficult to follow....

http://www.rugby-league.com/operational-rules/#p=1


I'm starting to follow now, my fault for reading that previous quote from you in isolation

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