Armavinit wrote:Maybe not making my point clear Jakester. IMO opinion the cup was and is the holy grail. Wigan won it god knows how many times on the trot but they still enjoy the day/weekend out as would anybody. I missed one final of the modrrn era, 50's onwards, every defeat hurt like hell but every victory was savoured, last year more than ever. It meant more because of all the people I knew who never got to see it and every other win at Wembley, will produce the same sentiments. I cry unashamebly every time I hear "Abide with me". You can't recreate that at Manchester at a contrived premiership final.
Each to their won but the measure of the best team in the comp is the GF winner and that's the next big target for this club IMO
Jake the Peg wrote:Each to their won but the measure of the best team in the comp is the GF winner and that's the next big target for this club IMO
Totally agree.
If you asked me this time last year, I'd have said the same as Armavinit for the same sentimental reasons - the multiple failed attempts to win at Wembley. Now we've finally put that to bed, the priority has to be to become Champions.
It's the hardest comp to win. You have to firstly ensure that early season form is good enough to get in the 8 after the 23round cut-off, then you have to battle it out in 7 more games against the best sides to make sure you get the top4, then a semi-final and grand final. There's an added bonus of being able to compete to become World Club Champions.
I disagree with Armavinit that the GF is a contrived concept, it's Rugby League's traditional way of crowning a champion, baring a few intermittent seasons, dating back to what 1900(?). Maybe it's mainly those introduced to RL during those seasons where top spot meant the champion who feel this way, or maybe they look at what they do in Football?
Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.
If you asked me this time last year, I'd have said the same as Armavinit for the same sentimental reasons - the multiple failed attempts to win at Wembley. Now we've finally put that to bed, the priority has to be to become Champions.
It's the hardest comp to win. You have to firstly ensure that early season form is good enough to get in the 8 after the 23round cut-off, then you have to battle it out in 7 more games against the best sides to make sure you get the top4, then a semi-final and grand final. There's an added bonus of being able to compete to become World Club Champions.
I disagree with Armavinit that the GF is a contrived concept, it's Rugby League's traditional way of crowning a champion, baring a few intermittent seasons, dating back to what 1900(?). Maybe it's mainly those introduced to RL during those seasons where top spot meant the champion who feel this way, or maybe they look at what they do in Football?
Yeh and look how exciting the end to the premier league season was!!!! Boring
Tinkerman23 wrote:Yeh and look how exciting the end to the premier league season was!!!! Boring
Yeh, exactly. I just wasn't sure whether the system they use in football was something some people were more use to, hence the apathy towards the playoff/GF.
Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.
DGM wrote:Yeh, exactly. I just wasn't sure whether the system they use in football was something some people were more use to, hence the apathy towards the playoff/GF.
Its very rare the best team in the comp dont win the grand final, imo
Maybe us fans may not be too bothered about going back to Wembley but tell that to the players, coaches and Pearson! If it helps bring in more revenue I'm all for another trip down to Wembley (plus no excuse from the rfl if we win it again and qualify for the GF and a aussie game)
number 6 wrote:Maybe us fans may not be too bothered about going back to Wembley but tell that to the players, coaches and Pearson! If it helps bring in more revenue I'm all for another trip down to Wembley (plus no excuse from the rfl if we win it again and qualify for the GF and a aussie game)
I don't think anyone's said they aren't bothered about getting to Wembley, just that in their opinion they think the GF should be the main focus.
Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017. Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013. League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983. League Runners-Up: 1957, 1982, 1984, 2006.
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