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 Post subject: Re: RD 12 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:36 pm 
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It was good to see Oledzki make his debut but how many minutes did he get? Not enough for me.






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 Post subject: Re: RD 12 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:37 pm 
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Whilst the official stat for penalties against JJB might have been one, watching the game I saw him pinged at least 4 times. I understand that his energetic and enthusiastic nature (which I love btw) means he is more involved, he's wise enough to be able to learn during a game when the ref will penalise him.

He needs to sharpen up here IMO.






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 Post subject: Re: RD 12 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:54 pm 
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JJB has the rare JP gene, if no ones putting their hand up when it gets messy, he's there, dead on his feet or not.

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rhino65 wrote:JJB has the rare JP gene, if no ones putting their hand up when it gets messy, he's there, dead on his feet or not.


True, no questioning of his mental strength. I just hope that, like JP, he recognises the waning of his physical powers and calls it a day when his time's up.






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 Post subject: Re: RD 12 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:25 pm 
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Old Feller wrote:It was good to see Oledzki make his debut but how many minutes did he get? Not enough for me.


Played about 10 minutes after half time, and to be fair, I think Mac got it about right. Oldezki looked OK carrying the ball but towards the end of his stint looked to be struggling with the pace a bit defensively.

He'll certainly get better, and looked promising, but imo that wasn't the game for him to get big minutes in.

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MO said as much in his post match interview. He's still a kid, a humongous mountain of a kid, but needs to be introduced sensibly.

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batleyrhino wrote:Whilst the official stat for penalties against JJB might have been one, watching the game I saw him pinged at least 4 times. I understand that his energetic and enthusiastic nature (which I love btw) means he is more involved, he's wise enough to be able to learn during a game when the ref will penalise him.

He needs to sharpen up here IMO.


The Opta Jones-Buchanan stat of conceding one penalty is IMO correct here.

He had an involvement in other penalty decisions, namely - he was next to last man to release when Moon was penalised for holding down on 6 mins - he was the other tackler when Golding was pinged for the ball steal on 55 mins - he hacked the loose ball through when Handley was adjudged offside on 63 mins.

The one Opta allocation with regards Leeds penalties conceded I would call debatable was the double tackle on 53 mins by Ward and Parcell where the ball came free - that went against Parcell, in live play I called it against Ward.

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Shame Widnes blew a 22-0 lead against Hull today. Bad week for Wigan with all above them winning and creating a slight gap. Still got players dropping like flies (Escare, Flower, Gelling are going to miss most if not all the rest of the season) and have only won 3 of their last 9 for all the talk of them being fine even with absentees. Next 4 games for them are interesting (with plenty of guys still missing) - Wire (N) Saints (A) Wakey (H) Hull (A). They're only 4 points ahead of Saints & Wire ATM and could get caught up by them if they pick up a few losses in that run of games which is definite possibility.

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tvoc wrote:The Opta Jones-Buchanan stat of conceding one penalty is IMO correct here.

He had an involvement in other penalty decisions, namely - he was next to last man to release when Moon was penalised for holding down on 6 mins - he was the other tackler when Golding was pinged for the ball steal on 55 mins - he hacked the loose ball through when Handley was adjudged offside on 63 mins.

The one Opta allocation with regards Leeds penalties conceded I would call debatable was the double tackle on 53 mins by Ward and Parcell where the ball came free - that went against Parcell, in live play I called it against Ward.


I agree with your summary. Too often the camera dwells on JJB after a penalty when in fact he was not the offender. We all know he does give some penalties away but that goes with the job as he is often first tackler in and so last up and the award is given when he has bodies on top of him. Also the players that make the most
tackles run a greater risk of being pinged more often.






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The irony here was Jones-Buchanan's only penalty concession on Saturday came when he tried to clear himself from the ruck only for Tony Gigot to deliberately throw the ball at him forcing the referee to act. Different referee on a different day potentially a different decision in this contentious area highlighted earlier in the season.

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