Appalling half, lots of things wrong, but once again discipline is a massive problem, despite according to some in not a concern, every try so far has come from penalties.

22-4. Credit Turgut for getting the penalty with 1 min left.

Jeez we needed that hope it's the start of a turnaround.

think Radford will pull Connor off and move Tuimavave to right centre and give Griffin a run back at left centre

flippin heck how inconsistent can we be.....losing to salford and leeds very badly at home is understandable .. getting used to losing danny shocker etc and they are good teams (top 4 ish) but widnes away seems to be a real problem .

then we get a lifeline on hooter but we are making hard work of it !!!

Awful 39 minutes from us and a pretty good one from last year's top 8 side who look full of running and energy.

Couldn't the same be said about all SL sides, with maybe only Cas the exception (still lost 2 games on the trot recently)

Terrible today, but it's too early to write us off.

Appreciate its a very tight league this year and we will lose a few, but its more the manner of our performances, we seem to be either awful or awesome with no middle ground. The wins against Cas and Wire were massive efforts, but you tend to find that teams can only pull off those kinds of efforts a couple of times a year, its too tiring to do that every week. We need to find a way to win in '3rd gear'

Well not a bad start

First set, Shaul under posts, break by Watts.