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 Post subject: Re: Saints voted AGAINST salary cap changes!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:53 pm 
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redex113 wrote:MacManus is a tight wad, hence all the crap signings of recent years.


You do realise that we spend the cap limit don't you?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:54 pm 
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Really surprised that you guys voted against the SC increase.
The simplified message it sends out to potential players is "We don't want to increase your wages and we want to pay you as little as we can"






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I find it bonkers that most SL clubs dont run reserve sides because of cost, nor do they even bother to have professionally run academies, yet at the same time many of these self styled clubs are quite happy to vote to raise the salary cap so they can throw money at a big name signing.

Were do they expect these big name signings to come from if they cant be bothered to spend money developing them!!

Extra salary cap money should be contingent upon having a top rated academy and running a full reserve side in the reserve league. Dont do that and you should be limited to 1.6 million spend.

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I was reading an article that said Saints voted for the rise in the Salary cap but didnt agree with having two Marqee signings.






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I'm not sure how raising the cap helps anybody to be honest. It will never be increased to bring parity with the NRL or RU so this small rise won't do anything to retain players in SL. We will still have the same crop of players but they'll be paid a bit more! 2 marquee players is more likely to result in player retention.

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raising the cap might allow some clubs to pay the academy/fringe players a little more than sub £20k so keep more younger players at clubs instead of ditching them once they reach 19 years of age and not yet ready for first team






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The Chair Maker wrote:I find it bonkers that most SL clubs dont run reserve sides because of cost, nor do they even bother to have professionally run academies, yet at the same time many of these self styled clubs are quite happy to vote to raise the salary cap so they can throw money at a big name signing.

Were do they expect these big name signings to come from if they cant be bothered to spend money developing them!!

Extra salary cap money should be contingent upon having a top rated academy and running a full reserve side in the reserve league. Dont do that and you should be limited to 1.6 million spend.


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The Chair Maker wrote:I find it bonkers that most SL clubs dont run reserve sides because of cost, nor do they even bother to have professionally run academies, yet at the same time many of these self styled clubs are quite happy to vote to raise the salary cap so they can throw money at a big name signing.

Were do they expect these big name signings to come from if they cant be bothered to spend money developing them!!

Extra salary cap money should be contingent upon having a top rated academy and running a full reserve side in the reserve league. Dont do that and you should be limited to 1.6 million spend.



This makes total sense I reckon






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Find it strange that McManus not made comment on it. He has other things to deal with but he's usually outspoken ok these issues






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We will only waste it on sh*te like Lee, Owens and Peyroux anyway.

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