FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home The Sin Bin Brexit Anyone? (2)



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 985 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ... 99  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:27 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 32114
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Exiled down south wrote:https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/overviewoftheukpopulation/mar2017/previous/v1

Do you accept that the ?? 3 million plus EU migrants have contributed to the significant increase in the population and this is a contributing note contributing factor to stretched NHS, schools, doctors etc


How much of a contributing factor? Is it a big number?

I would expect most immigrants to be of an age where they present the least burden to the NHS.

The ageing population - i.e. that which places most burden on the NHS will be predominantly British non immigrant.

IMO the biggest contributory factor on stretched public services are domestic policies of "austerity".

How many of those immigrants work in public services?






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Apr 24 2011
Posts: 17989
Bullseye wrote:How much of a contributing factor? Is it a big number?

I would expect most immigrants to be of an age where they present the least burden to the NHS.

The ageing population - i.e. that which places most burden on the NHS will be predominantly British non immigrant.

IMO the biggest contributory factor on stretched public services are domestic policies of "austerity".

How many of those immigrants work in public services?


As Bren2k posted earlier, the Tories and their press have been very, very, successful at planting the seed of "immigrants being to blame" for the NHS being overstretched.
Baring in mind that the most expensive patients are the over 65 (£6,000 p/a) and the over 80's at (£8,000 p/a) but, "everybody" believes "them" all to be health tourists. :CRAZY:
How, when ALL public services have been slashed, can the Tories still manage to sell a lie, it's quite incredible, anyone would think that they had friends in the media :shock: and an impotent opposition :oops: .

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:50 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Mar 24 2010
Posts: 15521
Location: Ossett
wrencat1873 wrote:Baring in mind that the most expensive patients are the over 65 (£6,000 p/a) and the over 80's at (£8,000 p/a) but, "everybody" believes "them" all to be health tourists. :CRAZY:


Furthermore - the single biggest cost to the benefit bill is pensions; certainly not immigrants, or even fraudsters, or scroungers with 16 kids and two council houses knocked together. Despite that, the narrative around benefits is always disproportionately skewed, to the point where a whole new genre of 'benefit porn' reportage has been spawned, dutifully trotted out by the Daily Fail and it's lower rent counterparts - and somewhat incongruously, Channel 4.

The Tories have a long history of dividing the working classes in order to conquer them - and they've done it with stunning success to embed the idea of 'austerity' as a requirement; whilst quietly overseeing a £555 billion increase in government debt since 2010.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:33 pm 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 09 2011
Posts: 1908
Location: Deepest North Yorkshire Woodland
Potentially brexit could be a disaster, certainly it can't be resolved in a two year time slot. The one piece of good news I read today was an idea that until trade agreements are reached ,we would work on a zero tariff trade basis. This may take up to ten years but probably gets everybody off the hook. Also a lot can very obviously happen over ten years.
I would think whatever the outcome we will have to make some financial contributions. It's highly unlikely we will get any decent deals without some kind of payment.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:35 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 32114
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Thing is it's all so unnecessary. With all the problems in public services, housing etc Brexit is likely to be as welcome and as distracting as a fart in a space suit.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:40 pm 
International Star
First Team Player

Joined: Aug 09 2011
Posts: 1908
Location: Deepest North Yorkshire Woodland
Bullseye wrote:Thing is it's all so unnecessary. With all the problems in public services, housing etc Brexit is likely to be as welcome and as distracting as a fart in a space suit.

Harsh but true.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:32 pm 
International Chairman
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 14845
Bullseye wrote:How much of a contributing factor? Is it a big number?

I would expect most immigrants to be of an age where they present the least burden to the NHS.

The ageing population - i.e. that which places most burden on the NHS will be predominantly British non immigrant.

IMO the biggest contributory factor on stretched public services are domestic policies of "austerity".

How many of those immigrants work in public services?

Nothing to do with our enormous national debt then?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:41 am 
Club Coach
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Mar 24 2010
Posts: 15521
Location: Ossett
Dally wrote:Nothing to do with our enormous national debt then?


Which as I've already pointed out, is even more enormous after 7 years of Tory rule than it was to begin with; so they've increased the national debt by £555bn, but continued to massively defund the NHS - because it's a deliberate, ideological strategy to privatise, and nothing at all to do with 'reducing the deficit.' And immigration is a red herring of epic proportions - the biggest impact immigrants have on health and social care, is to staff it.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:52 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 32114
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
Thanks bren2k, summed up perfectly.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Brexit Anyone? (2)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:35 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 21 2007
Posts: 7122
Bullseye wrote:How much of a contributing factor? Is it a big number?

I would expect most immigrants to be of an age where they present the least burden to the NHS.

The ageing population - i.e. that which places most burden on the NHS will be predominantly British non immigrant.

IMO the biggest contributory factor on stretched public services are domestic policies of "austerity".

How many of those immigrants work in public services?


You should also consider that Britain produces more EU migrants than any other country within it.

Which means any reduction in immigration would be tempered by a reduction in emigration.






nosorożce biorą to w dupę

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 985 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ... 99  Next





It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:10 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 62 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:10 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
24m
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
44m
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
Recent
Superleague
Smiffy27
20
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
Recent
New Screen
BullPen
12
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
Recent
Film game
karetaker
7862
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
Recent
Amateur Rugby in Bradford
Bulls Boy 20
98
Recent
RL fans on mobiles
ALAW
46
Recent
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
2
Recent
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
Recent
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
NickyKiss
3
3s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
7s
Rumours and signings v9
endoman
29252
8s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3296
9s
Leigh h
apollosghost
98
14s
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
16s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
21s
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
44
26s
Recruitment rumours and links
Abe Froman
3917
27s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
28s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
31s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
43s
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
50s
Film game
karetaker
7862
56s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
B0NES
5050
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
FoxyRhino
2
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
NickyKiss
3
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Pyrah123
4
TODAY
Pele
Pyrah123
3
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
Smiffy27
20
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
TODAY
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Round Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
266
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
414
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
708
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
485
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
295
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
558
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
772
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
765
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
822
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
749
Betfred Super League Season Se..
971
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
939
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1582
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1369
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1431
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
24m
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Bent&Bon
92
44m
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Jake the Peg
346
Recent
Superleague
Smiffy27
20
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
Recent
New Screen
BullPen
12
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
Recent
Film game
karetaker
7862
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
Recent
Amateur Rugby in Bradford
Bulls Boy 20
98
Recent
RL fans on mobiles
ALAW
46
Recent
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
2
Recent
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
Recent
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
JamieRobinso
13
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
NickyKiss
3
3s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41748
7s
Rumours and signings v9
endoman
29252
8s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3296
9s
Leigh h
apollosghost
98
14s
Leeds v Wakefield
Once were Lo
187
16s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
21s
Bradford
Deadcowboys1
44
26s
Recruitment rumours and links
Abe Froman
3917
27s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3096
28s
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
33
31s
BORED The Band Name Game
karetaker
65119
43s
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
50s
Film game
karetaker
7862
56s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
B0NES
5050
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
FoxyRhino
2
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
NickyKiss
3
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Pyrah123
4
TODAY
Pele
Pyrah123
3
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
Jake the Peg
25
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
Smiffy27
20
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
ninearches
102
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
TODAY
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Round Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
266
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
414
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
708
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
485
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
295
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
558
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
772
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
765
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
822
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
749
Betfred Super League Season Se..
971
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
939
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1582
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1369
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1431


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.