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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:07 pm 
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Tony Smiths own creation (bar Westwood) or the team that got Cullen sacked......

Smith XIII_____Cullen XIII
Gidley_________Hicks
Johnson_______Riley
Evans_________M. Gleeson
Atkins_________King
Lineham________Penny
Brown_________Briers
Patton_________Monaghan
Cooper________Morley
Clark__________Clarke
Sims__________Rauhihi
Hughes________L. Anderson
Savelio________Westwood
Westerman____V. Anderson

Dwyer________M. Gleeson
Blythe________Grix
Livett_________Bracek
Westwood_____Harrison






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 Post subject: Re: Worse or Better ...You decide
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Worse or Better ...You decide
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:43 pm 
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Food for thought.

IMO, that Cullen side, with Smith coaching it for a couple of seasons, wins trophies. Eventually, it did. Sadly, the players were prime movers in the Cullen Out movement. We're seeing the same, now, at Leicester City.

Now, not for a second am I suggesting we're looking at player revolt, just a coach with an "I'm not listening" attitude to our clearly evident problems.

We lack "edge". We've almost become nice. We have a pack that has an "after you, Claude" instead of a "get in amongst them" attitude, and an (expensive) 3/4 line that's not doing it's job.

Smith now has a BIG problem on his hands. We're a game or two away from it being a crisis. He starts to REALLY earn his money, now.






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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:55 pm 
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I always say Cullen was let down be Chris Bridge...otherwise things might have worked out differently.

I've already gone and said I'm happy to see TS go...I don't care if we do win silverware this season or not.

Time for a fresh approach.






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 Post subject: Re: Worse or Better ...You decide
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:00 pm 
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The difference is Tony Smith finished top of the league with the team on the left and won Challenge Cups with the team on the right, whereas Cullen missed out on the playoffs with the team on the right.

At the point Cullen left our fans were laying in to him for poor recruitment bringing in players like Rauhihi, King and Monaghan who were regarded as flops.






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Tony Smith wrote:"So it's not like I think there has to be a shelf life but it's important to know when it's time not to be there any more..


Everything that has a beginning, has an ending.

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Wires71 wrote:Everything that has a beginning, has an ending.

I think you'll find it doesn't.






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There were some fantastic players and leaders in that team smith inherited... Towards the end Cullen just didn't know what to do with them and it all fell apart.

A new coach and a new approach to things freshened the place up. We got behind the team, the players responded and we enjoyed some challenge cup success.

Its just a shame that the next coach that comes in here wont have such an easy task to turn things around.

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Cullen's down fall was the naughtiness of Bridge and the failure of M Monaghan to play halfback in the British style. In all Cull had 3 former hookers in succession all to play scrum half. The only 7 we had bagged let him down like Bridge did.... Andrew Johns.

Cull ran out of time...I still think had Bridge or Andrew Johns for filled their contractual agreement....Cull would have got us that Wembley visit himself instead of TS riding Cullen's surf wave.






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