FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Disciplinary outcomes



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:43 pm 
International Chairman
The SOL one was a f 'kin disgrace, intentional shot to the head, no attempt at a legitimate tackle in any way shape or form.
the panel gave mitigating factors to reduce the ban but then forgot about the aggravating factors.
he didn't accept his EGP so how can the panel state that he plead guilty (given how clear cut it was how can you not in any case)
They graded it as a C stating it was reckless, no, it was clearly deliberate, how can it not be given there was no attempt at a tackle at all.

Panel wording:
Potential for serious injury
MITIGATING FACTORS

first half dismissal, guilty plea, exemplary disciplinary record and first caution in 15 year career.
REASONS FOR DECISION

The tribunal have watched the DVD on several occasions and are satisfied this offence was graded correctly at Grade C. There is no doubt this was a reckless tackle. The contact with the opponents head was at speed and with considerable force. There was significant risk there would be contact with opponents head. This type of tackle would normally attract a more severe sanction. However taking into consideration the player was dismissed from the field in the first half of the game, the fact he has accepted his guilt and his exemplary record within the game over a long period of time this tribunal feel that a 1 match suspension and a £300 fine are appropriate.

no previous cautions because the disciplinary is a fackin joke, you only have to look at the Matt Bowen late/high shot that he jumped into to wipe out the Hudds player in his first match and got nothing for it to know the system is bent!

Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:28 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player

Joined: Jan 29 2010
Posts: 865
Aboveusonlypie wrote:I see what you mean.

Why do you think that Wigan are treated more leniently than Hull by the RFL? When you say 'cheating' - do you think money is changing hands or something equally sinister?


Its not Hull alone regarding Wigan's unfairly favourable treatment by the RFL. The cases I quoted involved Widnes and Wakefield and they didn't just outrage their supporters but the rest of the clubs as well. No its not money changing hands, but as has been said its clear favourable treatment. Whether it is just a legacy of the outrageously partisan stewardship from Uncle Mo's time I don't know but I would guess (fairly confidently though) that if you polled supporters around the game about who gets the most favourable treatment from the RFL then Wigan would be comfortably first, followed by Leeds with daylight third. To answer the inevitable complaints from some Wigan fans that this is mere jealousy then why don't St Helens attract a similar amount of dislike, even back to when they were at their peak? After all they had what most regard as the best ever team in the SL era yet you won't get many saying they got there by unfair means.

And don't get me started on salary cap cheating as well...

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:39 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player

Joined: Jan 29 2010
Posts: 865
knockersbumpMKII wrote:no previous cautions because the disciplinary is a fackin joke, you only have to look at the Matt Bowen late/high shot that he jumped into to wipe out the Hudds player in his first match and got nothing for it to know the system is bent!


The no previous cautions or similar no previous offence is one of the oddest things about the disciplinary. It seems that someone with an appalling disciplinary record is allowed a let off (providing he plays for a favoured club) if he hasn't done this particular offence before. So Flower in the case I mentioned earlier got off because he hadn't done a spear tackle before. Only in this last week, Ablett - one of the grubbiest players in the game had his suspension put at the bottom end because he'd never clattered into a ref before. It's almost as if you have to collect an armful of badges like a Scout, head shot, cannonball, chicken wing, choke hold, etc before they even start thinking of previous for players from some clubs.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:11 am 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Sep 25 2003
Posts: 22313
There's no conspiracy and there's no favourable treatment to certain clubs.

Claiming that there is just smacks of paranoia.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:19 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30478
Is there a list anywhere of who sits on these panels? Any of our ex players on them? Who made the decision on watts






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:24 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30478
ComeOnYouUll wrote:There's no conspiracy and there's no favourable treatment to certain clubs.

Claiming that there is just smacks of paranoia.



There is definitely a history of some players receiving much more lenient treatment than others. The lack of consistency and transparency of the process is what frustrates fans. We all know that other players will get dealt with much more leniently than watts for similar "tackles" this year.

The scenario where ex players are sitting on panels for players of their former clubs is open to criticism so should be stopped






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:45 am 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Jan 08 2006
Posts: 12120
Erik the not red wrote:The no previous cautions or similar no previous offence is one of the oddest things about the disciplinary. It seems that someone with an appalling disciplinary record is allowed a let off (providing he plays for a favoured club) if he hasn't done this particular offence before. So Flower in the case I mentioned earlier got off because he hadn't done a spear tackle before. Only in this last week, Ablett - one of the grubbiest players in the game had his suspension put at the bottom end because he'd never clattered into a ref before. It's almost as if you have to collect an armful of badges like a Scout, head shot, cannonball, chicken wing, choke hold, etc before they even start thinking of previous for players from some clubs.


I can just picture Shaun Wane sat with his players telling them what new piece of foul play they can all try this week. They've probably got a whole team working to find something Ben Flower has never been done for before.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:01 pm 
Club Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 12 2005
Posts: 13126
Location: East Staffordshire
Wasn't there going to be a working party or summat along those lines into the dealings of the disciplinary system ? Maybe I'm dreaming but I thought Hudge was going to be one of the investigators seem to remember reading something in the paper a while back.






"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - Peter Sterling

Adam Pearson said not wrote:I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:25 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Aug 15 2011
Posts: 5318






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Disciplinary outcomes
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:47 pm 
Club Captain
First Team Player

Joined: Jan 02 2017
Posts: 1401
Staffs FC wrote:Wasn't there going to be a working party or summat along those lines into the dealings of the disciplinary system ? Maybe I'm dreaming but I thought Hudge was going to be one of the investigators seem to remember reading something in the paper a while back.

Hudge and Motu, unless we've had some weird parralel dream!

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next





It is currently Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:10 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dave K., DSJ1983, Ellam, Hasbag, HU8HFC, hull2524, Jake the Peg, K-Diddy, mwindass, RockNRolla, UllFC, Yippee try yay and 217 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:10 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2969
3m
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Leeds_Luke
15
5m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41633
6m
Leeds away first up
Pat Bateman
277
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64796
7m
Film game
BOSS HOG
7562
7m
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
6
10m
Bradford
BigTime
19
11m
Redvee Update
Wires71
34
17m
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
19m
12th February
Murphy
4
39m
Smoking vapes cheaper options
Ovavoo
2
Recent
Sky coverage
Or thane
17
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4993
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
29234
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Leeds away first up
Pat Bateman
277
0s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
29234
2s
Redvee Update
Wires71
34
3s
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
7s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41633
10s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
11s
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
15s
Bradford
BigTime
19
22s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4993
24s
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
3174
26s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64796
40s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7562
43s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Leeds_Luke
15
45s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2969
51s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
3071
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
rugbyleague8
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
Wigg'n
16
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
christopher
5
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
Bullseye
5
TODAY
Scurr
Highlander
19
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
19
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
4
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Round 1 - London H
paulwalker71
18
TODAY
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
6
TODAY
Super league Or Sky Sports
wrencat1873
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Barbed Wire
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition RESULTS AND STANDINGS
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Sheffield away
terry silver
5
TODAY
Sound system
BarnsleyGull
7
TODAY
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shock In Defeating the Castleford Tigers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Clash of styles
Pat Bateman
58
TODAY
No I Player
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Bradford v Castleford
Big lads mat
14
TODAY
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
TODAY
Highlights v Goole
Big lads mat
41
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
500
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
469
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
507
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
519
Betfred Super League Season Se..
711
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
728
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1386
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1166
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1237
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1413
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1371
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1482
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1871
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2695
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2750
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
CC2025 3 Batley24-4Dewsbury
CC2025 3 Crusaders20-26Widnes
CC2025 3 Oldham42-4Barrow
Sat 8th Feb
CC20253 Goole V0-82Wakefield
CC2025 3 Halifax0-14Catalans
CC2025 3 Whitehaven4-44Warrington
CC2025 3 York A6-52Hull FC
CC2025 3 West Hull0-38St.Helens
CC2025 3 Leeds92-0WEST W
Fri 7th Feb
CC2025 3 Sheffield12-48Wigan
CC2025 3 Workington0-60Leigh
CC2025 3 York2-44Hull KR
Sun 2nd Feb
CC2025 2 Keighley12-72York
1895 0 Midlands52-24Whitehaven
1895 0 Newcastle0-60Crusaders
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2969
3m
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Leeds_Luke
15
5m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41633
6m
Leeds away first up
Pat Bateman
277
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64796
7m
Film game
BOSS HOG
7562
7m
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
6
10m
Bradford
BigTime
19
11m
Redvee Update
Wires71
34
17m
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
19m
12th February
Murphy
4
39m
Smoking vapes cheaper options
Ovavoo
2
Recent
Sky coverage
Or thane
17
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4993
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
29234
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0s
Leeds away first up
Pat Bateman
277
0s
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
29234
2s
Redvee Update
Wires71
34
3s
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
7s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41633
10s
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
11s
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
15s
Bradford
BigTime
19
22s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
ComeOnYouUll
4993
24s
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
3174
26s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64796
40s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7562
43s
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Leeds_Luke
15
45s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2969
51s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
3071
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leeds v Wakefield
rugbyleague8
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess article in the Guardian
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Squads - Warriors v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
TODAY
New Screen
Highlander
3
TODAY
Leigh h
Wigg'n
16
TODAY
New RL Podcast - Real Class
christopher
5
TODAY
Thursdays ref
Frank Bumper
5
TODAY
Post Match Music
Bullseye
5
TODAY
Scurr
Highlander
19
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
19
TODAY
12th February
Murphy
4
TODAY
Man Utd v Wigan Warriors
NickyKiss
4
TODAY
Fantasy Super League Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Super League Prediction Competition
katevans11
1
TODAY
Round 1 - London H
paulwalker71
18
TODAY
Social Media
Dr Dreadnoug
6
TODAY
Super league Or Sky Sports
wrencat1873
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Huddersfield Away
Barbed Wire
8
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition RESULTS AND STANDINGS
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
Sheffield away
terry silver
5
TODAY
Sound system
BarnsleyGull
7
TODAY
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shock In Defeating the Castleford Tigers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Clash of styles
Pat Bateman
58
TODAY
No I Player
BOSS HOG
4
TODAY
Bradford v Castleford
Big lads mat
14
TODAY
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
DSJ1983
86
TODAY
Highlights v Goole
Big lads mat
41
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
500
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
469
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
507
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
519
Betfred Super League Season Se..
711
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
728
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1386
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1166
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1237
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1413
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1371
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1482
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1871
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2695
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2750


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.