Interesting article from earlier in the week. Illustrates some huge fundamental problems with the UK economy which will be exacerbated should immigration be curtailed (which it won't be): http://www.standard.co.uk/business/anth ... 73456.html
As I understand it the lower 50% of earners get more out of the welfare state than they pay in taxes. If that is the case, despite the need for immigration spelled out in the article can we as a country afford to import low-skilled migrants to work in coffee shops, Amazon warehouses and the like?
Interesting article from earlier in the week. Illustrates some huge fundamental problems with the UK economy which will be exacerbated should immigration be curtailed (which it won't be): http://www.standard.co.uk/business/anth ... 73456.html
As I understand it the lower 50% of earners get more out of the welfare state than they pay in taxes. If that is the case, despite the need for immigration spelled out in the article can we as a country afford to import low-skilled migrants to work in coffee shops, Amazon warehouses and the like?
My post was timely. Daily Express today leads with threat to state pension posed by 3 million low paid migrants being subsidised by taxpayers to tune of £31.5 billion a year. Surely it is unstainable to live in the new, corrupt form of socialist society where major banks are supported to make losses rather than broken up and we pay to import people to work in thousands of cofffee shops (which didn't exist 20 years ago), pick goods in warehouses for companies that pay virtually no tax here and undermine established, tax paying businesses and all the while individual citizens largely speaking get poorer. This has to stop. A revolution in thinking or actual revolution is required to sort the mess out. If Labour had a straight-talking, eloquent, firebrand of a leader the times are right for real change but instead they are a bunch of out of touch, robotic, unthinking, pussies lead by a man with the charisma of a cardboard cutout.
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I stopped reading when you mentioned the Daily Express. I wouldn't believe a word written in that. They've already had to issue two front page apologies this year for inaccuracies relating to their reporting on immigration. It's a laughable rag.
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LifeLongHKRFan wrote:So it looks like the Lords is going to push the bill back to the commons with some amendments. This could be a long drawn out process.
Insane vote which could put the positions of Brits living in EU at risk.
Dally wrote:Insane vote which could put the positions of Brits living in EU at risk.
So, by agreeing some rights for EU residents currently living in the UK, we are putting the rights of UK citizens living in Europe at risk ? Is any kind of sensible debate, these people would be allowed to remain where they are and not used as bargaining chips in the Brexit deal. How much is a British citizen worth compared to an EU citizen ?
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May is obviously keen not to lose any bargaining power at all. Think this is a bit simplistic really given how much the UK relies on many of the EU nationals already here.
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.
Bullseye wrote:May is obviously keen not to lose any bargaining power at all. Think this is a bit simplistic really given how much the UK relies on many of the EU nationals already here.
Indeed - if the NHS and Social Care looks stretched paper thin now, imagine what it would look like without all the migrant workers.
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