Muzza leaves, Lance in - what are your thoughts, reflections and overall view on his tenure at the club?
That great win in the Challenge Cup vs Saints in 2000, then the hammering at home from Bradford, then the 13 consecutive wins - seems to be a real mixed bag. Why did it never work out for him here?
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:56 am
rollin thunder
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still having nightmares over it. terrible coach terrible choice, we had a great assistant coach in Damien Mcgrath, who was instrumental in pulling the players out of the mire. when McGrath left (lost forever to union) he did not mix his words about lance and what the players thought of him. he (lance) should have been shown the door after 1 season not two and a half. put the club back 2-3 seasons. i am hoping the sticking with McDermott another season does not prove to be the same.
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Les Norton
Player Coach
Joined: May 18 2007 Posts: 2091 Location: Dirranbandi
rollin thunder wrote:still having nightmares over it. terrible coach terrible choice, we had a great assistant coach in Damien Mcgrath, who was instrumental in pulling the players out of the mire. when McGrath left (lost forever to union) he did not mix his words about lance and what the players thought of him. he (lance) should have been shown the door after 1 season not two and a half. put the club back 2-3 seasons. i am hoping the sticking with McDermott another season does not prove to be the same.
Didn't McGrath go on to become joint head coach of Warrington with David Plange?
The Paul Stering saga! Not played because of the colour of his skin, what he accused Lance of anyway, oblivious to the fact there were black players regularly picked by Lance
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:57 pm
DHM
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Joined: May 25 2006 Posts: 8893 Location: Garth's Darkplace.
More than anything I was mickey**d off with Murray. He joined on a 4 year contract and bailed halfway through with the job he promised not completed. And Morley went with him.
It seems fine when some Australians want out of a contract but others get a 90 page thread.
"Well, I think in Rugby League if you head butt someone there's normally some repercusions"
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:24 pm
rollin thunder
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Les Norton wrote:Didn't McGrath go on to become joint head coach of Warrington with David Plange?
The Paul Stering saga! Not played because of the colour of his skin, what he accused Lance of anyway, oblivious to the fact there were black players regularly picked by Lance
the sterling saga was a strange one, as i remember it, sterling approached lance and asked him why he was not being selected and what did he need to do to win favor, , lance stated that he would not be picked regardless of form/performance, sterling asked him if it was the color of his skin and lance would not give an answer. anyway when lance was asked in court what his experience of afro Caribbean players was, his answer was he had none as "those boys played basketball" as sweeping generalization that did not go down well in a Uk court, and the court ruled in favor of Sterling saying Lance was guilty inadvertent institutionalized racism (or there about).
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:26 pm
Sal Paradise
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He was offered the coaching gig because he had a SL contract and GH saw it as a way of saving money!!
Terrible coach who dropped Sinfield for the 2000 CC final so a players whose wife was his wife's best friend could get a game.
Also brought Paul Bell over who lasted all of 6 weeks!!
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Post subject: Re: The Dean Lance Era - Your Memories
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:42 pm
William Eve
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 07 2005 Posts: 4938
Sal Paradise wrote:He was offered the coaching gig because he had a SL contract and GH saw it as a way of saving money!!
Terrible coach who dropped Sinfield for the 2000 CC final so a players whose wife was his wife's best friend could get a game.
GH's original target for replacing Graham Murray (whose salary was also paid for by SL Australia) was John Lang (another contracted to SL Australia) but was turned down. Lance was the only other SL Australia contracted coach out of a job after Adelaide Rams were shunted, but at least he came cheap
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