Post subject: Re: General Topic | Coaching Structure
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:58 pm
batleyrhino
International Chairman
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Interesting topic. I don't think there is a best number of coaches to have, so I wouldn't go for a coach for this, and a coach for that. What I'd look for is a mix of skills (game management, defence, player skills, unpredictability, and motivational speaking) such that we had a "toolkit" that we could call upon depending on the situation.
At the moment I'd say we have the motivational speaking bit in McD, but not so much else. I'm not convinced by the other coaches, but don't really know enough about them to say really.
One area I'd set apart is the Academy, and I think that we should follow the concept Rhino-Mark outlined above. We should also have a defined playing style that all the team subscribe to, which embodies what the club think they are all about, a Vision for the company so to speak.
It's not how much talent you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.
Post subject: Re: General Topic | Coaching Structure
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:39 pm
Emagdnim13
International Star
Joined: Jul 04 2015 Posts: 2342
I think you need someone respected who can motivate the team and have the knowledge to build the team and choose a play style that suits the team best.
You then need some one with the playing skills and ability to teach those skills to the team, especially for the Hbs and spine players .
If you get that in one person great, if you need an assist coach, so be it. I prefer the latter as it adds a second voice, gives valuable training to possible future coachs
ATM, since Peacock and Sinfield we seem to have lost more than their playing skills but also the structure, leadership and play style we saw during the last few years.
Imo we are crying out for a Dunemann style player or one who could coach those skills into Lilley and Sutcliffe.
Post subject: Re: General Topic | Coaching Structure
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:39 pm
Gotcha
International Board Member
Joined: Oct 15 2002 Posts: 17230
RHINO-MARK wrote:Then id have an Acadamy Director who oversaw U19's U16''s & U15's with 2 assists for each age group made up of snr/ex players who wanted to Coach.
This. Why we moved away from something we did so right, just to suit someone else's power building I do not know. What a backwards move.
Post subject: Re: General Topic | Coaching Structure
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:36 pm
Barrie's Glass Eye
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Joined: Sep 26 2011 Posts: 990
I don't think there's a set answer to this, but it is about having a range of skills in the back room staff. If you look at Wigan they have Wane, but IMO they played better rugby with Deacon as an assistant.
Not entirely relatable but I used to play in the forwards and when I've took up age group coaching there are some stuff that scared me to death, like kicking, until I found someone to involve who had this as part of his skill set.
But that's not to say that's always the case, good coaches not only put the right people, but they also can always learn themselves. Ryan hall gives a lot of credit to Bluey (a former half) for teaching him how to attack a ball in the air both to have a chance at scoring or feed a support player.
Post subject: Re: General Topic | Coaching Structure
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:38 pm
binks
Player Coach
Joined: Mar 07 2008 Posts: 888 Location: Emohawk: Polymorph II
Assuming nothing has changed since I was last at Kirstall These are the people I can name off the top of my head as the clus has loads of coaches and assistant S C and Phsios.
I really dont see the point of this threads attack on lack of structure
Head Coach Mcdermott Assistant Coach Chris Plume Assistant Coach Barry Eaton
Head of Academy Simon Bell Academy Head Coach Adrian Morley Assistant Coach - U19s Johnny Wainhouse Head Coach - U16s Mark Butrill Assistant Coach - U16s Martin Wood Head Coach U15s Dan Cooke Assistant Coach - U15s Steve Hill
Head of Performance Player Performance Analyst - 1st James Bletsoe Player Perfrormance Analyst - Academy there is one cant remember name
Head of Strength and Conditioning S & C Analyst - 1st Ian Kirke S & C Analyst - Academy Ben Jones
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