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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:43 am 
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Surely the point is that having an old stadium that requires constant costly maintenence can be a millstone around the neck.

On a completely unrelated note, how is the SouthStand replacement coming along?

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:52 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:People have told us for years Bradford needed to cut their cloth accordingly and now seem surprised they are a useless bit of cloth nobody wants. The same story gets repeated time and time again. You simply made the same argument don't chase success. Accept less.


Just Maybe because they have never bought into cutting their cloth accordingly?

For the record i really hope Bradford can come back from this.. but they do need to learn the lessons this time, probably have to start afresh now and build the club back from scratch, it won't be easy. I hope they can because there are many good fans who are suffering.






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:51 am 
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I first started going to live RL matches in 1963 to support Bradford Northern after they'd gone bust & then reformed after the efforts of people such as Trevor Foster.
It seems that the Bulls are simply following historical precedent without learning the lessons of history.
No different to the majority of nation states in that regard.






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:25 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:The game is possibly about to see the loss of one of its biggest and most storied members and it will act like this is something which was done it and not the result of the actions and decisions the game has taken and the choices it has made.

Bradford's story is the current story of the game writ large. Accept less and manage your decline or die.


If it's the result of the actions and decisions the game has made then why aren't other GF winners like Leeds, Saints and Wigan in the same position?






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
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Biff Tannen wrote:Just Maybe because they have never bought into cutting their cloth accordingly?

For the record i really hope Bradford can come back from this.. but they do need to learn the lessons this time, probably have to start afresh now and build the club back from scratch, it won't be easy. I hope they can because there are many good fans who are suffering.

What is accordingly? Spending less on players and seeing crowds false? Being relegated and seeing funding fall and crowds cut in half? How many times are we going to say they will step back and rebuild before we address the fundamental stupidity of expecting them to operate an SL infrastructure on championship funding and Championship crowds?

People say the stadium is the millstone around their neck. This won't change by spending less on players, it won't change by 'cutting their cloth' it wasn't changed by giving them 50%funding, it wasn't changed by points deductions or relegating them.






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:43 am 
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ThePrinter wrote:If it's the result of the actions and decisions the game has made then why aren't other GF winners like Leeds, Saints and Wigan in the same position?

There is a possibility every club isn't the same?






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:35 pm 
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SmokeyTA wrote:What is accordingly? Spending less on players and seeing crowds false? Being relegated and seeing funding fall and crowds cut in half? How many times are we going to say they will step back and rebuild before we address the fundamental stupidity of expecting them to operate an SL infrastructure on championship funding and Championship crowds?

People say the stadium is the millstone around their neck. This won't change by spending less on players, it won't change by 'cutting their cloth' it wasn't changed by giving them 50%funding, it wasn't changed by points deductions or relegating them.



or how about living within your means?
or not throwing free tickets left right and centre.
the fault for bradfords demise is purely and simply with negligent useless owners. don't try to dress it up by pointing the finger elsewhere

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
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tad rhino wrote:or how about living within your means?
or not throwing free tickets left right and centre.
the fault for bradfords demise is purely and simply with negligent useless owners. don't try to dress it up by pointing the finger elsewhere

So they spend less on players, spend less on marketing, spend less on everything, crowds fall. What do they do then? Spend even less on players? Get relegated; see crowds and funding fall? Then what? Spend nothing on players spend nothing on marketing nothing on anything else and crowds still continue to fall?

This is the game as a whole right now. Keep cutting, accept less, accept worse. Manage your decline.






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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:09 pm 
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tad rhino wrote:or how about living within your means?
or not throwing free tickets left right and centre.
the fault for bradfords demise is purely and simply with negligent useless owners. don't try to dress it up by pointing the finger elsewhere


I think you are unfair to highlight the free ticket promotion. That was tremendously successful in the late 1990s in exposing RL to a completely new market. Bradford became the best supported club in SL for a time, and this wouldn't have happened without a bit of a stimulus. At the same time Leeds were in a very precarious position and could have done a Bradford if Caddick and GH hadn't come in.

The various administrations at the Bulls were obviously not blameless, including Caisley's hatred of Leeds and his peeing contest with GH, leading to the consequences of the Harris affair. Some fans on the Bulls board were well aware of the financial millstone of Odsal long before the on-field decline started, which begs the question of why it wasn't addressed sooner, but for a time there appeared to be genuine optimism that all the problems would have been solved with the much vaunted redevelopment of Odsal that must have been dependent on external sources of funding rolling in. When things started to go wrong on the field under McNamara, the off-field decline was already well in motion.

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 Post subject: Re: Bradford Bulls | Administration
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:13 pm 
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SmokeyTA wrote:There is a possibility every club isn't the same?


So it's the clubs fault then not the game if others have shown you can manage and be fine and continue to win GF's. No reason Bradford couldn't have done the same except for their own failings.






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