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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:29 pm 
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DGM wrote:I imagine a libellous accusation about Radford bullying the youngsters would be taken more seriously.



Regards to Shaul, terrific season and fully deserved an extension. I was glad to see in the interview that he knows he still has a couple of weaknesses to address, which if fixed should help propel him closer to the England FB position. We saw in the 4N just how valuable a ball handling FB is at that level with Boyd, and ultimately it was why Lomax was picked ahead of him.

It's also good to have someone of the quality of Connor pushing him for a place as well as having the ability to slot in as cover if needed.

As others have said, Sneyd & Watts next please.


Completely agree with Sneyd but why all the fascination with Watts he has two years to do yet!






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The Dentist Wilf wrote:Completely agree with Sneyd but why all the fascination with Watts he has two years to do yet!


Yes I know. I said next, not now Wilf haha.

I'd hope the club aren't thinking like that though and already have the wheels in motion to offer him a deal at some point next year to take him beyond 2018.






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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Shaul
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:22 pm 
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DGM wrote:Yes I know. I said next, not now Wilf haha.

I'd hope the club aren't thinking like that though and already have the wheels in motion to offer him a deal at some point next year to take him beyond 2018.


Sneyd OOC in 2018 too as the club have the option to extend according to Mrs Barista.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:13 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:Mate stop reacting to people

Im a love to hate character on here but do i give a fook? Not in the slightest i do.

You are you and sometimes have very valid arguments but the crew know far too easily how to wind you up and to get a reaction. Ignore them and follow your own agenda as you see it just like i do.

The clubs in a good place atm and needed much critism in the past including your petition (which i signed) but lets all look forward and get behind the the club & team and have a great next season - Come On You Ullllaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just as well then that the signees of the petition and the doughnut of an author weren't given the time of day.
Premature chopping and changing would have probably had us in a worse state of limbo and still chasing our tails.
Just as well AP understood time had to be given and foundations built, and, hey presto, looks like he was right and Bumpy and the hang em high brigade got it badly, badly wrong. :D

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WIZEB wrote:Just as well then that the signees of the petition and the doughnut of an author weren't given the time of day.
Premature chopping and changing would have probably had us in a worse state of limbo and still chasing our tails.
Just as well AP understood time had to be given and foundations built, and, hey presto, looks like he was right and Bumpy and the hang em high brigade got it badly, badly wrong. :D


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WIZEB wrote:Just as well then that the signees of the petition and the doughnut of an author weren't given the time of day.
Premature chopping and changing would have probably had us in a worse state of limbo and still chasing our tails.
Just as well AP understood time had to be given and foundations built, and, hey presto, looks like he was right and Bumpy and the hang em high brigade got it badly, badly wrong. :D


100%

As was said when Radford took over, its was going to take a while to sift out a lot of deadwood and that things would not happen with the click of a the fingers. Too many didnt take heed of this and wanted to pull the trigger even though there was a long term plan. Some so claim not to want mediocrity would have resigned to to years of instability to satisfy their own ignorance of the bigger picture.

In the era of the cap and VERY few mid season transfers, the idea that a coach can come in and wave a magic want to correct year of mis-management is completely misguided.

But hey, some seem to think that not attending and still moaning about it achieves things. :wink:






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It was a dirty backstabbing coup, I tell thee.
He were a bully to them young uns, I tell thee.
He aint 'arf been a lucky sod, I tell thee.

I'll take all of the above, and maybe we should all be thankful for it?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:23 am 
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Tuimavave on the Hull website today saying the competition for places is good. It'll be really interesting to see who performs well in each position over the course of the 5 friendlies. I'd guess we'll see the ones who returned earlier v Cas and then drip feed the others in over the course of the games but I cantl't remember when Shaul came back? Could we possibly see Connor start at fullback as he was one of the first in, unless Jamie started at the same time? Doubt we'll see Taylor until the Salford game, but others should get a good run out.

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Shaul
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:13 pm 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:100%

As was said when Radford took over, its was going to take a while to sift out a lot of deadwood and that things would not happen with the click of a the fingers. Too many didnt take heed of this and wanted to pull the trigger even though there was a long term plan. Some so claim not to want mediocrity would have resigned to to years of instability to satisfy their own ignorance of the bigger picture.

In the era of the cap and VERY few mid season transfers, the idea that a coach can come in and wave a magic want to correct year of mis-management is completely misguided.

But hey, some seem to think that not attending and still moaning about it achieves things. :wink:

If that is directed at me you're way out, I never stopped attnding, I criticised when it was right to do so and praised when it was due.
As regards to a new coach coming in, be honest, if we'd had a better more experienced coach we would have won the treble last season given how things went our way and with the squad we had.

That's not to say Radford cannot continue to improve but at the time (mid 2015) he was not improving one iota and we were playing some of the most dour rugby for some time which was what was putting people off coming, even those with season tickets, quite a few on here repeated that they couldn't be bothered to go it was so pants, the call for his resignation/change things was valid. It's a voiced opinion, and like it or not at the time we were absolute dog dirt and that opinion was on the back of almost getting relegated in 2014 and the cr @p that was on show in 2015.

With a better squad than last season which is going some and one that is certainly more balanced it will show how he has progressed or not. Gaining Kelly hopefully is the key to unlocking our potential more often, not winning something next yea will be a dissapointment for most because everyone keeps saying we need to kick on.
I stated in a thread a few months back it would be harder to be successful next season and got shot down yet now everyone seems to be agreeing with that.
It will be harder, we won't be as fortunate with injuries whether that be other teams injuries effecting them or our own players. It will mean Radford has to show his worth when to bring in younger/less senior players, how to motivate the team when the chips are down and repeat the energy of last season.
And if he does well like 2016 I will give praise, if he makes mistakes like he did in 2016 that ultimately cost us the treble I will criticise, if he makes a right two n eight of things then I suspect most won't be happy at all.
Development of players like Shaul, Carlos, like the youngsters coming through is massively important so one hopes the coaching team can keep us near/at the top of the tree this following season and beyond.

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knockersbumpMKII wrote:If that is directed at me you're way out, I never stopped attnding, I criticised when it was right to do so and praised when it was due.
As regards to a new coach coming in, be honest, if we'd had a better more experienced coach we would have won the treble last season given how things went our way and with the squad we had.

That's not to say Radford cannot continue to improve but at the time (mid 2015) he was not improving one iota and we were playing some of the most dour rugby for some time which was what was putting people off coming, even those with season tickets, quite a few on here repeated that they couldn't be bothered to go it was so pants, the call for his resignation/change things was valid. It's a voiced opinion, and like it or not at the time we were absolute dog dirt and that opinion was on the back of almost getting relegated in 2014 and the cr @p that was on show in 2015.

With a better squad than last season which is going some and one that is certainly more balanced it will show how he has progressed or not. Gaining Kelly hopefully is the key to unlocking our potential more often, not winning something next yea will be a dissapointment for most because everyone keeps saying we need to kick on.
I stated in a thread a few months back it would be harder to be successful next season and got shot down yet now everyone seems to be agreeing with that.
It will be harder, we won't be as fortunate with injuries whether that be other teams injuries effecting them or our own players. It will mean Radford has to show his worth when to bring in younger/less senior players, how to motivate the team when the chips are down and repeat the energy of last season.
And if he does well like 2016 I will give praise, if he makes mistakes like he did in 2016 that ultimately cost us the treble I will criticise, if he makes a right two n eight of things then I suspect most won't be happy at all.
Development of players like Shaul, Carlos, like the youngsters coming through is massively important so one hopes the coaching team can keep us near/at the top of the tree this following season and beyond.


It wasn't directly directed at you, but your compelling need to bite is more telling.

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